Thread: [SPOILERS] Revelations from Patch 3.3

They might have a Larsa figure in the empire to initiate the reforms

Definitely think what we've been doing is safe, as we're not wielding the auracite. But, if you noticed,

Regula did have Servant Enkindle as ability.. would that mean he, and his legion is developing methods to implement the arts of summoner in magitek? Without a natural ability to control aether, they can't attune to primal aether waves like we can, so that means it has to be stored in a way.. perhaps using auracite?
Also.. what thing was in Regula's weapon? If that was a primal's essence...

Originally Posted by Vulcwen

Definitely think what we've been doing is safe, as we're not wielding the auracite. But, if you noticed,

Regula did have Servant Enkindle as ability.. would that mean he, and his legion is developing methods to implement the arts of summoner in magitek? Without a natural ability to control aether, they can't attune to primal aether waves like we can, so that means it has to be stored in a way.. perhaps using auracite?
Also.. what thing was in Regula's weapon? If that was a primal's essence...

I wondered that too. That was a rather strange thing he whipped out. Perhaps Garlemald has been experimenting themselves. Hell, that could be a reason for us going to Garlemald in a future expac.

Originally Posted by Theodric

Well, if Eorzeans were the ones who couldn't use magic I'm pretty sure they would be experimenting with ways to get around that too. Not to mention a lot of the potential power(s) that the Warrior of Light and certain other Eorzeans wield is pretty dubious too - such as what WAR, SMN, BLK, WHM and DRK wield. Though in each case they're currently fairly rare.

Personally I'm hoping that Garlemald makes some pretty major advances and it becomes a necessity for the Warrior of Light to rely upon that technology at some point in the story to deal with a greater threat. It doesn't even have to happen directly - just indirectly, much like how Shinra in FF7 were responsible for taking out a Weapon and opening up the path to Sephiroth at the end of the game. Without that it's very likely that FF7 would have ended very differently and with Sephiroth/Jenova winning.

Im more specifically talking about Garlemald doing their own experiments with containing and using primals like the Allagans did. Don't get me wrong. Im not arguing an 'all things Garlemald do are evil'. While he isn't working for Garlemald, we still are effectively using Garlean expertise and technology whenever we get help from Cid. Garlemald is still the most technologically advanced nation we know of so I imagine that one way or another we will end up using their stuff again even if it ends up being us stealing from them.

What I'm basically doing is looking at ways we could end up going to Garlemald. There has to be an antagonist and with the strength and breath of power Garlemald holds its likely that if we are visiting Garlemald that there are elements within Garlemald that might be a threat. Say for example the Uncle who got beaten for the throne gains control over a group of Garlean scientists that have figured out how to power magitech with imprisoned primals and draw upon that primal energy as a weapon. Suddenly he has a potential means to win a fight for the throne. However the primal energy starts seeping out and corrupting the people using the tech. Suddenly we have reason not only to go to Garlemald but to potentially work with Garleans who oppose said uncle politically and who see the technology as flawed and dangerous.

I would also say that comparing Garlemald to Shinra might not be the best option. Shinra was still an antagonist for the lifespan of FF7 and most of the problems in that game were due to actions carried out by their people. When we do finally see them truly move out of the antagonist role they have fallen a very long way and Rufus is both humbled and regretful of the actions of his company.

Anyway, I was really just speculating, rather baselessly, on the potential implications of Regula's weapon.:P I'm currently assuming that the Garlean presence in this story will have some future payoff rather them just harassing us while we put down the 3 Warring Triad primals.

I don't think Ceruleum is necessarily a problem. Certainly Hydaelyn has never raised it as an issue with us. Even the city states use Ceruleum. Ishgard ignite their dragonslayer spears with it to inflict additional damage on the target. The Airships that are used between the city states use Ceruleum. Regardless Hydealyn has never made an issue of it and we have frequently used it ourselves. Primals on the other hand are constantly being brought up as a huge red flag. Regardless of what Ceruleum is, the impact doesn't seem particularly severe. It seems very much like its just like a form of liquid crystal.

As for what differentiates Hydealyn and Zodiark, all we really know for certain is the actions of their agents. Zodiark's minions constantly spread chaos, conflict and harm wherever they go and seem to hold mortals in contempt. For our characters perspective that's an evil thing. The Rejoining is something we aren't clear on either but most of what we have seen so far suggests it's not likely to be pleasant for the people living on Hydealyn.

Now one thing we can say is the current status quo is off balance and to be fair we have only really have had Hydealyn's side of the story. What she has said however is that her act of casting out Zodiark was due to his attempt to swing the balance in his favour. While she could be lying or just wrong, its worth noting that going by her actions so far she has shown herself to be very benevolent. The only questionable thing she has done is the creation of the Voice and even then Minfilia was a willing participant. Even her orders to us suggest she wants us to make our own choices. Remember her very first words to us?

I think in the end the goal will be to find a way to restore balance between the Light and Dark. However I very much doubt the Ascian's plan is the one we want, particularly since their members have talked about the world drowing in darkness a number of times.