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    Fisher's complaint

    Alright SE has since 2.0 said they will make Fishing a relaxing job with less reward than the other 2 more interactive DOL jobs. I understand the reason given the simplicity of the FSH mini-game lends itself well to bots taking over the MB.

    However let me lament a lil bit...... SE you've hidden end game fishing behind story quest, time windows, weather, baits, stats, folklore, skills (fishing eye...etc), and location lockout if you're in a fishing location for several hours..... how much more anti-bot deterrents do you need more to add before our human fishers can get a decent return on the time we spend fishing for end game fishing??!


    I'm referring to 3.2 fishes mostly. With Cul desyn skill at 220, 3.2 fishes desyn at a 70% rate and among those desyn they have nearly a 1% chance of conversing into something decent (materia V's).....1% SE come on please!! Could we at least get a 10%? Keep in mind all these fishes materias are elementals (ice, water, fire, lightning) which means we'd need 5 of them to even gamble with the goblin in hopes of getting an actual useful materia V. This is your game and you know the impact of bots way better than I do; I'm just asking if you guys have consider these petty 1-2% conversion rates based on actual exposure to RMT or if its simply a flat policy.

    Heck you can do what you did with Storm Chasers; they use to desyn into Platinum coins then u patched it into gold....then u patched again into silver...clearly you saw something wrong and made adjustments. Could we get that kind of attention on these end game fishes please?
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    You can use 1 tier v materia for a 20% chance of a tier v materia as the outcome, and an 80% chance of tier iv if you use 4 ivs with it.
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    I would have to say SE has fully detered rmt from fishing or at least 99%. Any actual good spots to fish at based on time of day im typically the only person at, all month infact. The bad part of this is two staged. 1) Btn/min now have access to clusters which used to be exclusive to fishers.... 2) crap ton of bots are miners and botanist.
    So guess what just happened to fishers main supply outside of materia.

    Fishers are just getting slapped from every direction, Id ask them to at minimum to reconsider the idiocy involved with 3.3 but they wont revert it, the least they can do is include fishers in on the same tables min/btn are getting since they have access to our clusters too.

    For materia he was talking about desynth chance, not gamble chance.
    1% is crud

    Some kind of response to this from SE or mod would be appreciated, unless fisher is being planned on being removed from the game entirely, i think the recent decisions from SE with fishing and lack of consideration for it but give everything to min btn.....deserves attention and a response.....

    Especially since the bots all go btn min, this is promoting rmt even more. Someone over there needs to take that new /eureka emote and start using it in these patch and planning meetings.
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    Last edited by UnrealTai; 06-09-2016 at 07:44 PM.

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    the part where btn has our water clusters now.............................rip.............that's just not fair lol; unless there is a new fishing reduction we dont know about......

    I'm still hopeful with the new fishes that they'll desyn into something useful..PLEASE lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by javid View Post
    the part where btn has our water clusters now.............................rip.............that's just not fair lol; unless there is a new fishing reduction we dont know about......

    I'm still hopeful with the new fishes that they'll desyn into something useful..PLEASE lol
    Same, i wont rule out light kissed being in a fish but its not hopeful at this point
    All we have left is seabornes and really, who cares on those, 5-9 might sell in a whole 24 hours
    Keeping finges crossed after todays update and gear the new fish are caught desynth well
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    Last edited by UnrealTai; 06-09-2016 at 08:05 PM.

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    Fisher was turned into an achievement collecting class it is only an honourary dol, which is why they removed crystals and gave them seperate challenge logs. Don't expect to make any gil ever; as Fisher was remade with the not making much gil and being a snoozefest as features. I was vocal on the subject back in beta and before.
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    Last edited by Alaltus; 06-09-2016 at 08:34 PM.

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    Officially sure but since i came back a few months ago i was going on 1-2 mil a day using fisher only, post 3.3 ill be lucky to get 3-400. As for materia that just makes me cry inside. Im not sure where crystals were removed unless you mean access to all forms of them.
    Pre 3.3 only fisher could gather ice and water clusters/crystals in reduction. It wasnt removed in 3.3 it was opened to the two bot classes.

    Any recent and new or new to fisher players wont accept that either, and understandably so, cause all classes deserve equal balance.
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    Last edited by UnrealTai; 06-09-2016 at 08:39 PM.

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    I feel fishing has it's own niche depending on the server, I can make decent money in comparison to market prices. But there is nothing to really look forward to right now, I've caught some of the new big fish, mostly fail desynth right now at 197, but an ewer king did give me some yellow pigment.....

    660 gathering seems to be the minimum target now for the big fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaltus View Post
    Fisher was turned into an achievement collecting class it is only an honourary dol, which is why they removed crystals and gave them seperate challenge logs. Don't expect to make any gil ever; as Fisher was remade with the not making much gil and being a snoozefest as features. I was vocal on the subject back in beta and before.
    Do you even fish? I've made millions, weekly, on fishing in the past. Its how i made most of my money in this game until I started crafting a few months back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    Do you even fish? I've made millions, weekly, on fishing in the past. Its how i made most of my money in this game until I started crafting a few months back.
    I made 40-50 mil in one patch alone from fishing \o/. I am with you on this one .
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