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    Valknut's Avatar
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    Agni Highwind
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 90

    Spear and Spire - AST

    I don't think any other class has anything like these 2 abilities where you never want to see or use them. Any other card I get I can use on the spot to provide something to the group. I'm not advocating removing thinking from the game, but this goes beyond saving a CD for a tank buster, or an AOE balance/arrow for a burn phase.

    My suggestion is combine Spire into Ewer, that way I can spread TP regen an mana regen to my whole party and feel like its worth my while. Making Ewer do something for DRK is just a plus.

    Spear either needs to lessen current CD's by flat/ % amounts or be turned into another Balance/Arrow with either Crit or Det.


    TLDR : Change Spear an Spire, what are your thoughts. Am I off the reservation and just don't know how to use these 2 cards?
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    Mewmew Rielle
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Ewers can be a godsend in ex trials or savage.
    Especially in learning parties where tons of mistakes are made and you need to throw out big heals and plenty of rezzing.

    Most people find them useless (including me) when in 4man content because no one ever struggles with MP or TP there. Like I said you'll get the best use out of them when doing harder content.
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    Valknut's Avatar
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    Agni Highwind
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I quiet like Ewer mostly just problems with Spear and Spire. In most of my Alexander runs I hope I end up with more Ewer then Arrow or Balance xD.
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    Yawnie's Avatar
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    Mewmew Rielle
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valknut View Post
    I quiet like Ewer mostly just problems with Spear and Spire. In most of my Alexander runs I hope I end up with more Ewer then Arrow or Balance xD.
    Wow I read that as ewer lmao

    Spears are good to use on yourself most of the time. I tend to save one in spread and use it right before I use my MP regen, also good to use before you draw another card :x
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    PharisHanasaki's Avatar
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    Character
    Sodapop Jam
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    I use both, Spire less frequently and usually wait to use it expanded. I think the issue with the Spear is that people do not quite understand what it does, or underestimate is use.
    The cd reduction can be awesome on some classes (SMN! Painflare, Aetherflow, etc).

    I wouldn't be against a little buff to the Spear, like extending it's duration to 30s.
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    Valor Ferrer
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    I use both, Spire less frequently and usually wait to use it expanded. I think the issue with the Spear is that people do not quite understand what it does, or underestimate is use.
    The cd reduction can be awesome on some classes (SMN! Painflare, Aetherflow, etc).

    I wouldn't be against a little buff to the Spear, like extending it's duration to 30s.
    Agreed, Spear is great for classes with a lot of abilities (DRG,BRD,MCH). Even if its small a DPS increase is still a bonus.
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    Ruby Wesson
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    Raiden
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valknut View Post
    I don't think any other class has anything like these 2 abilities where you never want to see or use them....
    ...Making Ewer do something for DRK is just a plus.
    As mentioned spear is great for those jobs with alot of abilities, but i never buff this card at all, it goes straight on a party member, also ewer does exactly what it says for DRK, they just gotta remove darkside, its all part of DRK managing their mp.
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