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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    It's almost certain that either the meteorite or the light-kissed aethersand will be a moogle beast tribe reward
    Idk.....meteorite sound like a new mining mat and although "light-kissed" is suggestive of a moogle like name.....I'm still leaning on the aethersand portion of the name and the fact that they said they added new items that can be reduced!

    We arguing new mat locations over in the discipline of land forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    It's almost certain that either the meteorite or the light-kissed aethersand will be a moogle beast tribe reward
    Meteorite is more likely to be mined, Light-Kissed Aethersand could come from artherial reduction, and Crystallized Sap is probably botanist. The only thing without some kind of indication for where it comes from is the Glass Fiber which leads me to believe it is the Moogle item.

    As far as Luminous Fiber is concerned, I honestly would not be surprised if it's non-specialist given they did the same thing with Camphor. If it is, I'm already prepared with the gear to make it if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sollux View Post
    Meteorite is more likely to be mined, Light-Kissed Aethersand could come from artherial reduction, and Crystallized Sap is probably botanist. The only thing without some kind of indication for where it comes from is the Glass Fiber which leads me to believe it is the Moogle item.

    As far as Luminous Fiber is concerned, I honestly would not be surprised if it's non-specialist given they did the same thing with Camphor. If it is, I'm already prepared with the gear to make it if needed.
    RIP alc spc if they follow camphor with lum fiber
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    Quote Originally Posted by javid View Post
    I personally believe the 3 crafts that make ALC NOW OP are: 1) luminous Fiber 2)potions (b/c of yield and time reductions) 3) cordials**.
    The increased potion yield will revitalize the draconian/max potion market at least.
    The cordial market will likely be average, as the mats aren't all that expensive, and it likely won't be a difficult/specialist craft, since it has to be balanced with the other ways of obtaining cordials (GC seals, or 3 hi-cordials at 100 blue gatherer scrips)

    I don't think Luminous Fiber will be turned into a specialist recipe, not just due to the way Camphor wasn't a specialist recipe, but because of the Glass Fiber material.
    Glass Fiber will likely a time gated moogle beast tribe reward, similar to the Ehcatl Sealant from the Ixali. Having a material like this means the supply is easier to control without requiring it to be a specialist recipe.
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    If this is a specialist recipe, I'd better find an ALC.

    Glass Fiber being the new sealant seems likely. If it is, I'll have plenty of time to prepare.
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    I have to agree with the posts above me. Why would they double gate an ingredient that you need multiple of? If the ixalts were any indicator there will not be a decent supply for about a week. That's alot of time to prepare.
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    I'm not sure which of the mats if any will be the gated item for making lum fibers. However I'm still convinced they'll make it a spc item b/c they have always stayed thru to the spc system with new crafting releases. You'll argue "camphor" wasn't SPC. Yet camphor was only used in ONE CRAFT. Yes that crafted item eikon leather was used across all the other major gear classes, but can't be attributed to CAMPHOR..... the lining of reason would then question how any mat used in multiple syn can be made into SPC only??

    Lum fiber itself is used in every single new gear/tool craft and ALC didn't get that many new non glamour recipes!



    SECONDLY on the topic of gated mats: IF indeed it is glass fiber... it takes 3 glass fibers to make one lum fiber and the majority of gear/tools require at least 2 fibers (6 glass fibers) !! WHAT kind of weekly allowance are you guys anticipating? You won't even be able to make more than one gear per week if the allowance is 6 or less?? When Red scripts first came out we were allotted 9 tokens which could craft a MH, OH, and 2 rings in one week or any other combo that used 9 tokens (avg 3 piece a week)
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    Quote Originally Posted by javid View Post
    can't be attributed to CAMPHOR
    Of course it can be attributed to Camphor, a LTW/WVR/ARM still wouldn't be able to craft a total amount of 37 recipes without it.

    Quote Originally Posted by javid
    WHAT kind of weekly allowance are you guys anticipating?
    8 days worth of Ixali dailies gave enough Ehcatl Sealants for 2 pieces of gear, or 1 offhand.

    If it's balanced to be anything like that, it'll probably be around 9 Glass Fibers per week, which will be enough for:

    One mainhand or offhand tool (3 Luminous Fibers)
    One chestpiece (3 Luminous Fibers)
    One non-chestpiece and an accessory (2 Luminous Fibers per non-chestpiece. 1 Luminous Fiber per accessory)
    Three accessories (1 Luminous Fiber each)
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    If it's double gated it would be too expensive (time and Gil wise) to make one piece. Let alone sell pieces and mats on the AH. Those mats would pull 7 figures for 1 easy. 3 mil for 1 lum fiber is way too expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Of course it can be attributed to Camphor, a LTW/WVR/ARM still wouldn't be able to craft a total amount of 37 recipes without it.



    8 days worth of Ixali dailies gave enough Ehcatl Sealants for 2 pieces of gear, or 1 offhand.


    If it's balanced to be anything like that, it'll probably be around 9 Glass Fibers per week, which will be enough for:

    One mainhand or offhand tool (3 Luminous Fibers)
    One chestpiece (3 Luminous Fibers)
    One non-chestpiece and an accessory (2 Luminous Fibers per non-chestpiece. 1 Luminous Fiber per accessory)
    Three accessories (1 Luminous Fiber each)
    You didn't follow my logic. If you're saying "you could not have made camphor SPC b/c it used to make Ltw leather which is used in every craft almost." Then it would beg the question "why did you make LTW leather spc?? if it is used in almost all the crafts?" It would much easily follow the current system that if a item is in multiple classes it is specialized (high myth nuggets, iron eikon nuggets, eikon leather, eikon cloth) however if an item is used to make ONE craft you don't specialize it (each of the 2 star quick syn-able materials & camphor). But this part doesn't matter much.
    note: lum fiber has 2 star cluster requirements....therefore not likely spc
    If they go bk to the sealant like weekly limits that will be a major downgrade from when red scripts first came out and would mean you'd be better off inital stat wise and time wise obtaining the augmented gear which offer at most 3 pieces a week for for maybe 30mins of macro effort....
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