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  1. #61
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    _Kakera_'s Avatar
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    Kakera Kiseki
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    Blacksmith Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02 View Post
    Eh why are you surprised they do exactly the same to raiders, old gear becomes easier to get when new gear comes out.
    But they screw over whoever bought tokens with scrips and let those who stockpiled 500 scrips get a headstart. I'd say that's unfair. Why not just put in Rowena's Yellow Scrips or something if you're going to do that? I'm rather baffled they thought keeping in red scrips was fine. What you usually have is this:
    -Old lesser currency can be turned into Old best currency at a terrible ratio
    -Old best currency is now baseline earned with any activity
    -New best currency is made, need to grind from day 1 for everyone

    With how they handled red scrips, like I mentioned previously, either you played by their rules and got screwed over (turning red scrips into tokens waiting to see if anything new happened) or you played half by their rules and came out ahead (stockpiled anyway, but in scrips format, rather than token). Bad design.
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  2. #62
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    Phyllo's Avatar
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    Phyllo Tia'ristel
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    Machinist Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by Syhrwyb View Post
    Either i'm being blind or there's still no new Grand Company ranks. I could've sworn that that was coming.
    They stated a few times that there'll be no new ranks until they create content to justify it and go along with it, currently they're working on a Legion system which lets you enroll people to fight with you, people you'll train and the higher your rank the more you can enroll in your legion, tho we don't know how far they are in that project, if it's just an idea or actually being developed.
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  3. #63
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    XiXiQ's Avatar
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    Xixi Eclipse
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    Ravana
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    It's essentially just like the battle gear,
    It's not, for a start when the new battle gear comes out, people know in advance. well in advance. They also know if they have a stockpile of whatever tomestone, they can still spend it on gear. They also know they can keep their lore (up to 2000) for purchases after a patch. They've basically dumped this on us with no notice, while all the time forcing us into buying the tokens because the cap was a crappy 500. And to make it worse, if you got this week's tokens you're screwed, someone is already 500 ahead of you for no good reason. If they did that to the battle classes there would be pandemonium.
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  4. #64
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    Musashidon's Avatar
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by _Kakera_ View Post
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    i can see what you mean by unfair but i see it the same way as beastmen tribes anyone who hops on tuesday morning before daily reset gets a 1 day lead on everyone else in the beastmen dailes, course i will say red scrips is weekly not daily but you can still hold on to your weekly 450 til the next reset.

    it's not like they are using the red scrip tokens still that for me would be unfair since i haven't been hording them for the last few months but i can easily get 450 red tokens in 2 days.

    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
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    there was no reason to spend your scrips before reset, the game doesn't magically screw you over it you don't spend them before reset just if you don't get them anyone who bought more red tokens with them instead of waiting screwed themselves you only gained by waiting till after patch day to spend them.

    meaning the smart thing to do would have been spend then every week but this week and wait till full patch notes came out then did something.
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    Last edited by Musashidon; 06-06-2016 at 11:24 PM.

  5. #65
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    Ein Vaer
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Shame about the red scrip hoarding issue. They probably don't care since it's crafting/gathering. Games that used similar systems in the past reset currencies and convert it into money automatically before a new tier begins if they don't add a new one to level the playing field.

    Would have made more sense if they converted red scrips to blue scrips during the maint to add the new items. and let it go over the cap, but you can't get anymore until you spend it and get below the cap.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 06-06-2016 at 11:16 PM.

  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    but i can easily get 450 red tokens in 2 days.
    not if you have already capped this week and bought the tokens. That is the problem. If it was a new kind of scrip everyone would start on the same footing. They have just given some a 1 week headstart and some a kick up the backside instead.
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  7. #67
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    Musashidon's Avatar
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    not if you have already capped this week and bought the tokens. That is the problem. If it was a new kind of scrip everyone would start on the same footing. They have just given some a 1 week headstart and some a kick up the backside instead.
    i understood what you were saying. the only problem here is jumping to conclusions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    meaning the smart thing to do would have been to spend them every week but this week and wait till full patch notes came out then did something.
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  8. #68
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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Alright. Let's clear some stuff up. This is MY guesswork so take it as you will.

    i170 gear --> This is the crafted stuff. They made it i170 which is the bare minimum for grade V melding, which ticks me off a lil but no matter I'll sitll meld my gathering gear.

    i190 gear --> This is the lower tier red script gear. Yes I know it's odd theres i190 and i200 untradable gear but the difference being ths i190 will not require the goblin shit we will need to trade our red scripts for.

    i200 gear --> Our upgraded versions of our current red script gear. This is the same as before: crafted was i150 and the best untradable was i180. 30 ilvls above only this time we'll have grade V materia to pump into our crafted stuff.

    i195 tools --> New tools using 3.2 mats. Be thankful if you saved up mats like I did and that once again us high end gatherers can make a lot of gil off this stuff. Like holy crap this stuff is gonna sky rocket.

    i190 accessories --> If I recall these are craftable? As I understood they weren't gonna add new accessories and belts until 3.4... Thanks for the heads up SE. It's a shame I spent over 30m on my i170 melds(700 GP and no I didn't go the cheap route and sacrifice a crap ton of gather/perception)


    And yes, we can't use our stockpile of red script tokens to get the new gear and materials for said gear. Both you and I were naive to think SE would allow us to make use of our red script tokens from the get-go, giving us access to the ALL of the new stuff on day one.(you know who i'm talking to, I aint throwing this statement at EVERYONE(yeah, I had to clarify, cus ppl on forums can be idiots))

    This patch looks fun. Lots of gil to be made in both the housing sector and the gathering and crafting front and even the battle front with the dreadwyrm replica gear. A very nice QoL update.
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    Last edited by Morzy; 06-06-2016 at 11:25 PM. Reason: RIP 1k limit.
    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
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    Raid job: Gathering
    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

  9. #69
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    Chyro Soulpaw
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 100
    It's easier to blame SE / the patch than to blame oneself for lack of foresight.
    Could they have done it differently? Probably. But they didn't.
    Complaining won't change it.
    If this didn't give some people a headstart, something else would.
    Being able to be online more, getting the patch downloaded faster, spending more time crafting than others.
    There will always be some ahead of others, if they did it like this in the patch or differently.

    @ Post above me: As far as I understood it, the current i180 untradeable crafter gear + the new goblin items = the i200 untradeable, class-specific gear (augmented stuff). There's a new 170 craftable set that any craft class can wear, and a new 190 craftable set that any class can wear - with the 190 probably being quite difficult to craft (thus maybe requiring the i200 gear for stats, but that's speculation).
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    Last edited by Chyro; 06-06-2016 at 11:30 PM.

  10. #70
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I "kinda" glad I didn't stock red scrip but the blue scrip. I wonder if Replica Dreadwyrm gear is 3 star recipe...?
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