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    There seems to be an error in the patch notes: recipes for Carbonweave Crafting/Gathering gear exist, but are not on the new item list. I take this to mean that there was a translation name change somewhere (probably because the Ironworks isn't actually Augmented so they made the better version Carbonweave).

    From what I can tell the Crafting/Gathering gear tiers are supposed to be like this:

    i170 - cheaper overmeldable -master "Specialist" gear and more expensive overmeldable Carbonweave "Generalist" gear
    i180 - unmeldable -keep gear
    i190 - overmeldable Ironworks "Generalist" gear
    i195 - overmeldable Primary and Secondary tools
    i200 - possibly meldable Augmented -keep "Specialist" gear

    i170 < i180 < overmelded hq i170 < hq i190 < hq i195 < i200 < overmelded hq i190 <= melded i200 <= overmelded i195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    There seems to be an error in the patch notes: recipes for Carbonweave Crafting/Gathering gear exist, but are not on the new item list. I take this to mean that there was a translation name change somewhere (probably because the Ironworks isn't actually Augmented so they made the better version Carbonweave).

    From what I can tell the Crafting/Gathering gear tiers are supposed to be like this:

    i170 - cheaper overmeldable -master "Specialist" gear and more expensive overmeldable Ironworks "Generalist" gear
    i180 - unmeldable -keep gear
    i190 - overmeldable Carbonweave "Generalist" gear
    i195 - overmeldable Primary and Secondary tools
    i200 - possibly meldable Augmented -keep "Specialist" gear

    i170 < i180 < overmelded hq i170 < hq i190 < hq i195 < i200 < overmelded hq i190 <= melded i200 <= overmelded i195
    I dont know. ill just wait til servers r up to be sure.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
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    Alright. Let's clear some stuff up. This is MY guesswork so take it as you will.

    i170 gear --> This is the crafted stuff. They made it i170 which is the bare minimum for grade V melding, which ticks me off a lil but no matter I'll sitll meld my gathering gear.

    i190 gear --> This is the lower tier red script gear. Yes I know it's odd theres i190 and i200 untradable gear but the difference being ths i190 will not require the goblin shit we will need to trade our red scripts for.

    i200 gear --> Our upgraded versions of our current red script gear. This is the same as before: crafted was i150 and the best untradable was i180. 30 ilvls above only this time we'll have grade V materia to pump into our crafted stuff.

    i195 tools --> New tools using 3.2 mats. Be thankful if you saved up mats like I did and that once again us high end gatherers can make a lot of gil off this stuff. Like holy crap this stuff is gonna sky rocket.

    i190 accessories --> If I recall these are craftable? As I understood they weren't gonna add new accessories and belts until 3.4... Thanks for the heads up SE. It's a shame I spent over 30m on my i170 melds(700 GP and no I didn't go the cheap route and sacrifice a crap ton of gather/perception)


    And yes, we can't use our stockpile of red script tokens to get the new gear and materials for said gear. Both you and I were naive to think SE would allow us to make use of our red script tokens from the get-go, giving us access to the ALL of the new stuff on day one.(you know who i'm talking to, I aint throwing this statement at EVERYONE(yeah, I had to clarify, cus ppl on forums can be idiots))

    This patch looks fun. Lots of gil to be made in both the housing sector and the gathering and crafting front and even the battle front with the dreadwyrm replica gear. A very nice QoL update.
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    Last edited by Morzy; 06-06-2016 at 11:25 PM. Reason: RIP 1k limit.
    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morzy View Post
    i170 gear --> This is the crafted stuff. They made it i170 which is the bare minimum for grade V melding, which ticks me off a lil but no matter I'll sitll meld my gathering gear.

    i190 gear --> This is the lower tier red script gear. Yes I know it's odd theres i190 and i200 untradable gear but the difference being ths i190 will not require the goblin shit we will need to trade our red scripts for.

    i195 tools --> New tools using 3.2 mats. Be thankful if you saved up mats like I did and that once again us high end gatherers can make a lot of gil off this stuff. Like holy crap this stuff is gonna sky rocket.

    i190 accessories --> If I recall these are craftable? As I understood they weren't gonna add new accessories and belts until 3.4... Thanks for the heads up SE. It's a shame I spent over 30m on my i170 melds(700 GP and no I didn't go the cheap route and sacrifice a crap ton of gather/perception)
    ilvl 170 gear --> this is the new craftable catch-up gear, not class restricted, easy to get materials

    ilvl 190 gear --> this is the new best in slot craftable gear, needs a lot of 3 star mats and another possibly restricted mat (luminous fiber --> glass fiber)

    ilvl 195 tools --> same as ilvl 190, but needs less mats

    ilvl 190 accessories --> they already told us they were going to add new accessories in the last live letter
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    It's easier to blame SE / the patch than to blame oneself for lack of foresight.
    Could they have done it differently? Probably. But they didn't.
    Complaining won't change it.
    If this didn't give some people a headstart, something else would.
    Being able to be online more, getting the patch downloaded faster, spending more time crafting than others.
    There will always be some ahead of others, if they did it like this in the patch or differently.

    @ Post above me: As far as I understood it, the current i180 untradeable crafter gear + the new goblin items = the i200 untradeable, class-specific gear (augmented stuff). There's a new 170 craftable set that any craft class can wear, and a new 190 craftable set that any class can wear - with the 190 probably being quite difficult to craft (thus maybe requiring the i200 gear for stats, but that's speculation).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeoTwister5 View Post
    While it does say that its 50 reds per goblin item, and 50 reds in 1 token, it doesn't necessarily say that you can get it on a per token basis. If I understood the patch notes correctly, it's on a scrip basis and not token basis.

    Hopefully I'm wrong because otherwise it'll make my stockpile of tokens near useless.
    You probably are. I doubt they'd let us get all the new stuff day one cus we stockpiled. You know Se love to balance stuff, or try to anyways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    ... What the hell with the Augmented craft? So it's just like 170 but dyeable + bigger stat?
    No, it's untradable because the augmented isn't in the new recipes.

    Quote Originally Posted by JedahJohnny View Post
    So i have 30+ Red's Gatherer Token that are unsuable ???.. WTF!!! >

    SE ... need to exchange Red Tokensx1 - Goblin Cup/Dice x1... or we will rage in fury!

    Hey, thats 30 grade IV materia which frankly will become useful with our melding. I doubt it, you're gonna rage in fury.

    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    My main concern is red craft tokens, although I have a quite few of all types. Be damned if I'm grinding for months and end up being able to get nothing but crappy grade VI materia or blue scrip for it.
    Again, this is a balancing decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Yep new rank and outfits. It could be they are going to release it in 3.35 with Palace of the Dead.
    I'm ticked off it's not in 3.3.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chyro View Post
    It's easier to blame SE / the patch than to blame oneself for lack of foresight.
    Could they have done it differently? Probably. But they didn't.
    Complaining won't change it.
    If this didn't give some people a headstart, something else would.
    Being able to be online more, getting the patch downloaded faster, spending more time crafting than others.
    There will always be some ahead of others, if they did it like this in the patch or differently.
    I don't blame SE. If they wanted to avoid the small head start some will get then they would need to make a new system for scripts, like yellow scripts or something, and idk if they wanna do they yet, or at all for that matter.

    They can anticipate things, but it doesn't mean they will avoid every pitfall possible, sometimes there are prices to pay. SE isn't stupid.


    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    I "kinda" glad I didn't stock red scrip but the blue scrip. I wonder if Replica Dreadwyrm gear is 3 star recipe...?
    Probably. I'm assuming it's also specialized crafting seeing as the current replica stuff is no longer specialized.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chyro View Post
    It's easier to blame SE / the patch than to blame oneself for lack of foresight.
    If this didn't give some people a headstart, something else would.
    mind reading isn't "foresight".

    I am sure plenty out there have some kind of headstart - none of which were handed to them on a platter by SE.
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    I "kinda" glad I didn't stock red scrip but the blue scrip. I wonder if Replica Dreadwyrm gear is 3 star recipe...?
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    The new gathering gear is nice and sadly i converted my red scrips to tokens cause i was near capped but honestly are they adding more nodes or items that require higher stats? How exactly will the new gear affect what we are already gathering?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    The new gathering gear is nice and sadly i converted my red scrips to tokens cause i was near capped but honestly are they adding more nodes or items that require higher stats? How exactly will the new gear affect what we are already gathering?
    Luckily I've ben behind this week for being gone on the weekend and recently I started buying the tokens when i capped at 450. so i should get my new tool on Thursday.
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