Crafting needs to be fun or needs to be automated.

[Betelgeuzah]

There should be a standard, objective definition for "fun" and "immersion" in this place.

Not it's just a buzzword used to justify opinion X. "It's not fun (to me), fix it!"

[Blarp]

There should be a standard, objective definition for "fun" and "immersion" in this place.

Not it's just a buzzword used to justify opinion X. "It's not fun (to me), fix it!"

Crafting in XIV isn't fun or immersive by any definition.

fun: something that provides mirth or amusement: A picnic would be fun.

immersion: state of being deeply engaged or involved; absorption.

Are you amused or absorbed by pressing a single button thousands of times while sitting in the same spot? If you're watching Netflix while crafting you're definitely not immersed. You may be amused, but probably not by the game.

Come to my server. I'll fund you to level a craft to 50. You can do whatever you want in-game, but you can't watch movies or do anything that would otherwise distract you from the fun and immersive activity of crafting.

[Betelgeuzah]

fun: something that provides mirth or amusement: A picnic would be fun.

immersion: state of being deeply engaged or involved; absorption.

You still aren't defining anything. What is this "something" that provides amusement, and how do you generalize it to apply across different subjective opinions? Picnics sound like a bore to me, therefore it isn't fun, plus the definition of picnic differs as well. Are you alone, with your grandma, with your girlfriend? You can't take an activity like that and state that it would be objectively fun, therefore this is merely an opinion and not something that can be used as a justification for anything more than a single opinion would.

Are you amused or absorbed by pressing a single button thousands of times while sitting in the same spot? If you're watching Netflix while crafting you're definitely not immersed. You may be amused, but probably not by the game.

Am I amused by researching the current marketspace, trying to find recipes and venues to make profit either through buying mats or producing them myself? Am I amused by trying to produce a HQ to make me profit out of the synth instead of just breaking even? Am I amused by seeing my wealth grow little by little as I play with the economy, synth carefully instead of just buying masses of mats and turning on my bot while I watch TV? Am I amused seeing my effectiveness and success rates go up once I upgraded my equipment? Am I amused making deals with other crafters and gatherers to obtain mats cheaper than anywhere else, or getting contracts to create gear/attach materia for a certain price? Am I amused seeing my plans work in action, seeing the gil I've obtained by selling the stuff on my retainer over night that I produced the day before?

Yes, that can be incredibly amusing and absorbing. Maybe if you are a millionaire power leveling through the craft, sitting in the same spot producing the same item over and over again because money is no concern to you and neither is breaking even or profiting at that stage, I can see why somebody wouldn't find that amusing.

Maybe even what I said wouldn't be fun to someone else. Either way, you can not go out and say "it's not fun, therefore change it" as anything more than a single opinion among other opinions. You also can not generalize an activity by turning it into single button presses to make a point, as fun can (and in the case of crafting in games, always is) be more about the actual process of pressing a button. Ignoring all the aspects at play is ignoring what can make the feature fun to someone else.

Come to my server. I'll fund you to level a craft to 50. You can do whatever you want in-game, but you can't watch movies or do anything that would otherwise distract you from the fun and immersive activity of crafting.

That's not what makes crafting immersive for me. Somebody else does the actual immersive and fun part for me? Starting from scratch, reading the economy, making most out of every synth to get by and (eventually) make a living of it. Slowly obtaining more wealth through better gear and see how it affects my effectiveness. Instead of just dumbing it down into pressing a button because nothing else really matters as you are funded by someone else.