Why isn't housing priced higher? (why is housing random luck)

[AnaviAnael]

Spending the money on mogstation isn't the solution. There are apartments coming.

At the rate SE goes, apartments will be here in 2019. xD

[Stormrider]

To be fair though, there's always someone willing to sell their plot for the right price. One could argue that you (and your FC) could put in some of that hard work, time and effort to get yourselves a plot. Yeah you'll be paying extra, but that doesn't mean to say it's a feature that is unavailable to you. It's not completely fair on the buyer, but at the same time it's also not fair to say that you're being completely excluded from housing. Put in the work, get those millions, and start looking for people willing to sell.

How is working around the system not being excluded? The simple point is they have designed a system that does not allow everyone the SAME CHANCE to experience content.

It is pretty obvious that the person everyone is quoting just wants the ability to experience the same content. They are not asking for moogles to bring them gil or a house. Paying a second party to relinquish a house is not the same content. Unless SE steps up and says we don't want everyone to have houses fend for yourselves. But basically they mostly ignore all housing issues.

On a separate note what is with the defending of the system. It is a fail system, that they have doubled down on. Some servers have had houses available for a whole 2 mins in the last 18 months. They also can't seem to differentiate between a full server and a wasteland server. If Balmung and Gilgamesh are sold out in less then 5 mins it will mean there have been houses available for a total of 7 mins in almost 2 years.

[CuteWhisper]

Just out of curiosity, I have a medium in Mist at the moment, and if someone I know grabs a large plot, I'll be living there and will no longer need my plot. Now it's in a current ward, so it's obvious I'm not buying and reselling, but would that mean that I'm still not allowed to sell it? Would people actually prefer that I wait out 45 days (from whenever the counter restarts)? Or are we directing this solely to people who are buying for the sake of reselling?

I am fine with waiting it out, but it seems like a shame to keep an abandoned plot (especially in Mist) when someone out there could have one.

You can sell it if someone is asking to buy one or advertise in buying one.

[Celef]

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It is pretty obvious that the person everyone is quoting just wants the ability to experience the same content. They are not asking for moogles to bring them gil or a house. Paying a second party to relinquish a house is not the same content. Unless SE steps up and says we don't want everyone to have houses fend for yourselves. But basically they mostly ignore all housing issues.

Thank you for being the only one after all those post to understand what i'm trying to explain

[Kabzy]

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No one was actually saying that the current system is good. I'm sure all of us agree it's terrible. However we were simply stating that in this current situation, rather than playing victim just save up extra gil and go for what you want. My point wasn't that it's fair, because it's not, but there are still means of getting housing, even if it does require more effort than clicking a placard.

It would be great for SE to completely redo the housing system and make it available for everyone, but if we're being real here that is not coming any time soon. So work with what we have right now. It's not impossible to find housing, even now there are a lot of people selling plots.

[papichulo123]

its to late

[Linadae]

Reselling of plots is a misnomer. What it actually is, is something called Racketeering. Yes, I looked it up to make sure I was using it correctly. That's why on Balmung there's a group of people we 'lovingly' refer to as the Housing Mafia.

Yes we have a group of people who are dedicated to buying as many houses as possible and then reselling almost immediately to the highest bidder. These people get together and rush houses, with one person opening trade windows with legitimate buyers so their partner can purchase the land. Because thanks to SE's coding, you can't interact with ANYTHING while you have a trade window up.

So back to Racketeering, we've all heard it before but what is it? Simply put, it is causing people to pay you for a solution to a problem that wouldn't exist if it wasn't for your actions in the first place, i.e. Protection Racket: Give us money to 'protect' you or we'll trash your place and beat you up.

People who purposely buy houses just to get someone to pay them to leave are actively participating in a Racketeering scheme. No one would have to pay them if they hadn't bought the house in the first place. They would have just paid SE the money and went on their merry way.

Everyone else are doing it unknowingly. It doesn't make you any less guilty but you don't appear as malicious as the Housing Mafia. You're just trying to get back the money you gave to SE. Except you're not meant to get it back. It's supposed to be gone, forever, unless you wait out the 45days and then you get back a portion.

If this was happening in real life, there would be arrests made. Since this is in game, I think a ban and automatic release of property with no money returned is perfect punishment for people who do this.

[Knahli]

As I type this, I see someone waiting outside the Ul'dah housing zone in Balmung. She's level 50, in a FC consisting of two members, the other member being a Level 1 nothing. Meanwhile, she's simply level 50 in one class with Second Lieutenant in a Rank 8 FC without any housing that was founded this year, late March.

Should I suspect something? ¬_¬

[FabricioRF]

Some people are just too greedy. I really hope that their internet dies on the patch day or something.

[Knahli]

How unbelievably depressing....