RIP MCH

[TankHunter678]

I feel one of MCH's main issues is the RNG nature of its main combo. Remove that and make it so that reload lets you use special effects tied to the weaponskills.

Or remove Reload/Quick Reload entirely, remove the procs from the main combo, and put in either special ammo or special weapon skills.

[RLofOBFL]

IF they did change it so MCH got 100% procs....it would just put BRD even further behind. Actually it might put MCH avg dps on par with Ninja if it isn't already.

[Snugglebutt]

IF they did change it so MCH got 100% procs....it would just put BRD even further behind. Actually it might put MCH avg dps on par with Ninja if it isn't already.

They can alter potency's if had too large an impact on DPS when changing the main combo from RNG proc to always guaranteed follow on skill proc, changing ammo to buff related (like a manually activated greased lightning with buff timer and skill GCD instead of ammo being proc related). The change mentioned is a gameplay mechanics issue not a DPS output one, potency's can be used to balance it out so that is not a big issue but RNG on the main combo procs should be removed completely and instead of ammo being proc related it should be 'special' ammo aka either personal buff/target debuff related.

[YISUG]

does it matter everyone play what they like , not like everyone is getting the full potential out of those buffs

[Melch]

Wow that bard buff.Now people who main MCH should think building a Bard.MCH its already the job that people play the less and now no one will want a mch.But to my firend MCH we will have a flashy wildfire.

That's weird because MCH is really powerful compared to BRD : more or less same dps (if the BRD is extremely good) and gives +5% melee damages.
I welcome this BRD buff.

[Warlyx]

quick reload 15s cd , u can change your rng....when movement is needed , reload on 60s cd + natural procs ...and can debuff both 10% physical and magical w/o using MP , and save that mp for mp/tp regen , it was 5% until 3.2 and was buffed.

brd cast everything , only thing not casted is straight shot! procs , and use MP for debuff and tp/mp regen. BV was 300s cd , reducing the CD was needed badly....and the dmg boost is because brd suffers more than mch when movement and disconnects

brds changes are nice (not in the right direction imo...but i will take any bone tossed brd way :P)

[Wilhem]

Ah the "good ol' RIP this or that" posts they never get old... In all honesty most people won't even see a difference between now and the 3.3 bard as most player can't really exploit those changes in any meaningful way so despite your "doom and gloom" machinist won't become persona non grata just because of some buff bards have gotten at worst bard will become the "flavor of the month" class and that will be all.

[ErryK]

I don't even get this post, this individual says "RIP MCH" and then proceeds to say "I am intending to go MCH main soon and I hear it's fun!" Like, what do you think you are achieving by naming your threat something entirely different than what you're saying? It feels like this individual is just sheep, swaying wherever the "majority" is. On top of that, they're not even right on 90% of what they're saying. BRD and MCH are equally as important depending on how you want to work around your party composition, though in all honesty, MCH would be the most useful as it would buff not only its own damage but the damage of the tanks, any melee DPS and its own pet. So yeah, what the hell is this post?

[Meui]

I hopped between BRD and NIN for a good long time. To me, these 3.3 changes for BRD are basically just like putting a band-aid over the real problem. Which is Wanderer's Minuet. It doesn't quite fit with BRD's core playstyle, and I feel that's part of the problem they were having with DPS output. Increasing potentcies should probably help but it was the easy way out for SE in my opinion.

These days I main MCH and thoroughly enjoy it. So, that's where I'll be.

[Altena]

Eh? MCH was/is more desired in the current raid cycle. Not sure why you have such big issues with them bringing BRD up to scruff.

In saying that though, I don't think a buff to their DoT's is the answer, as BRD is a stronger multi-target class than MCH. I personally believe BRD needs playstyle adjustments more than the damage buffs they are giving it. Fixing the awkward "tack on" WM mechanic would be the first step. MCH doesn't suffer as much as their procs are bound to GCDs, whereas BRD's are oGCD's. It just makes BRD a clunkier class to play as you are trying to violently mash your procs between casts.