RIP MCH

[Alaina]

maybe, but MCH are finally getting to hide their gauss barrel so that may balance it out...

[FoxyAreku]

The ignorance in the OP...what...

Machinist is borderline broken and bard isn't brought into serious raid groups at all right now because of it. The bard buffs were necessary, it was either that or delete the job from the game.

Sorry if someone has said this already, but someone saying machinist isn't played very much is just mind boggling to me.

[Underdog2204]

The ignorance in the OP...what...

Machinist is borderline broken and bard isn't brought into serious raid groups at all right now because of it. The bard buffs were necessary, it was either that or delete the job from the game.

Sorry if someone has said this already, but someone saying machinist isn't played very much is just mind boggling to me.

Yeah I see alot of MCH around but I can't be sure if it's because I'm giving them the evil eye screaming "how dare you play my job!" at my screen when I see one :P

Tbh it's a point from when everyone was saying how MCH sucks and underplayed so it's really not reflective of the game right now imo.

[FoxyAreku]

Yeah I see alot of MCH around but I can't be sure if it's because I'm giving them the evil eye screaming "how dare you play my job!" at my screen when I see one :P

Tbh it's a point from when everyone was saying how MCH sucks and underplayed so it's really not reflective of the game right now imo.

I know right? They're everywhere.

As for the other topic at hand, you need only cast wide volley and rain of death, or empyreal arrow and rain of death/blood letter to see what a mess Bard is right now.

I know that's just animation glitching because of how rain of death was in 2.0...but it's still pretty unforgivable for a game of this caliber.

Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp23Ra7kr6Q

[Gallus]

People complained about MCH being too weak in 3.0, apparently it wasn't...
People complained about the massive AST buffs and how they'd overshadow the WHM, they didn't... and they are futher buffing AST...

With all due respect but people never get tired of complaining about stuff and then time repeatedly proving they are wrong over and over again?

I mean yeah, there are times where jobs need some help or are a bit too strong, but jumping the gun so fast saying RIP MCH when the BRD buffs are still only on the patch notes and haven't even been released XD... the only thing you accomplish with this is SE taking players less serious...

[Kabzy]

Maybe wait until we actually see 3.3 BRD in action before you start complaining?

[Spawnie]

Maybe wait until we actually see 3.3 BRD in action before you start complaining?

its always the case.. remember when they announced vit changes for tanks?? the rage posts and complaints in forums b4 the patch hit omg lmao

[basketofseals]

Oh jeeze, it's like the time AST got buffs and everyone was saying RIP SCH and WHM.

BRDs were fairing worse than MCHs and they got a buff, is that so wrong?

[Jetstream_Fox]

Oh jeeze, it's like the time AST got buffs and everyone was saying RIP SCH and WHM.

BRDs were fairing worse than MCHs and they got a buff, is that so wrong?

No its not, but for someone who mains BRD since 2.0 to see these buffs put in place but not some of the other things fixed, like Wide Volley being useless still, Bloodletter/RoD being finicky at times with there reset, why aren't songs toggle skills? I'm pretty sure Foes still pulls aggro which is annoying, damage reduction on songs doesn't make a lick of sense, I could see it being a thing with Foes cause it reduces enemy resistance, but regenerating tp and mp shouldn't reduce damage, it's kinda like if invigorate dropped your damage down for the duration of the cooldown, it would be questionable.

There is a lot of work that needs to be done on the class, while these buffs are great, they're not even the tip of the iceberg with BRD issues. Issues that SE created with 3.0 that they're kinda dragging their feet on with fixing.

[Alistaire]

Wow that bard buff.

Yeah, 5 potency to dots and bringing songs in line to the dps MCH loses, wow indeed /rollseyes

Now people who main MCH should think building a Bard.

At this point weapon is pretty much the only difference anyway, so yeah why not but not because MCH is dead

MCH its already the job that people play the less and now no one will want a mch.

you really haven't been paying attention to things lately huh?

But to my firend MCH we will have a flashy wildfire.

The only true part of your post. MCH was on par with BRD for dps and better for utility. Something had to be done. 5 potency boost to dots and a couple 10 potency boosts to ogcds is about the lowest boost they could give. Even a 1.5 song cast time doesn't put them on par with MCH in that respect, but it's definitely nice.