Request for a steeper exp curve on levels

[Baxter]

I think it is fine. If you do not want to be power leveled don't join a group that has a PL. If a PL shows up leave your group if you feel that strongly about it. You say you are for choice, but then you request to eliminate options because youre not manning up by turning down PL requests.

[Answa]

no its not, not as a conjurer for example... see and thats what you THINK... create a new character please and try it out yourself! dont talk about things you've not experienced.

its not that easy than before. Killing down a mob of your level isnt going that fast as before. s.. it seems like they have much more LP, but they have much higher defenses now.. especially a mage class (con) knows this. before i killed mobs with 3-6 lvs higher than me without any prob.

so it isnt about "lowering your stars to 1-2" blabla... it was really hard for me doing 1 star lv 40 leves with my lv 38/39 con as an example.


you have much more to chose whisely which element is the best against the mob... one element does 86 dmg on the mob, while the other does around 180-240.. and elements which are neutral to the mob are doing around 100-170.. so you're not doing 240 dmg all the time no matter which spell you casted right now... comes to the conclusion you're doing not that much damage as before.

and i think it does involve all other classes as well. killing mobs of your own lv and higher is a bit harder than before (and taking more time as well). everyone experienced that

And this is a good thing. You're not supposed to lay waste to things that are 5 levels higher than you.

I say this being both a CNJ and slowly leveling other classes.

[Yazoo]

There is some true in OP. But it's true only if you can find one Lvl50 character, who want to spend his time for leveling you. If you don't have any friend than it's hard to level up. And power leveling so boring.
I dont agreed with OP. If you realy need to level up quickly you can do it, But if you just started the game you can find a lot content on any level, but most players do not want to see it, they just want lvl cap.
Realy, who of you defited Toto-Rak with lvl30? Or mid-level NM with lvl25? It's fun to do on apropriate level, fun and hard.

[Felis]

screw you losers who want steeper leveling, you people need to get lives. I dont want to spend more time on this crappy game then I have to getting to 50.

And once you are 50 with all classes what then?
Do you end the game because you have all classes to 50 and don't want spend more time in this game? What is the point to play the game at all for you?

OP: +1

[Tonkra]

And this is a good thing. You're not supposed to lay waste to things that are 5 levels higher than you.

I say this being both a CNJ and slowly leveling other classes.

i didnt say that its a bad thing. i just said with this... that they havent taken in concern that killed much easier mobs in patches before.

they leveled also in a broken exp system, because monsters of 3-6 lvs higher than you or of your own level havent been any competition.

And once you are 50 with all classes what then?
Do you end the game because you have all classes to 50 and don't want spend more time in this game? What is the point to play the game at all for you?

OP: +1

haha thats funny... so can we see the real problem now? they need to implement content, not just make the grind harder. ;d

and you really think lv 50 will be the endgame maximum level? naive you. if we will habe a maximum lv of 90 one day, you want to raise the exp curve till 50 now? aha ;o

I think it is fine. If you do not want to be power leveled don't join a group that has a PL. If a PL shows up leave your group if you feel that strongly about it. You say you are for choice, but then you request to eliminate options because youre not manning up by turning down PL requests.

agreed

[Felis]

haha thats funny... so can we see the real problem now? they need to implement content, not just make the grind harder. ;d

and you really think lv 50 will be the endgame maximum level? naive you. if we will habe a maximum lv of 90 one day, you want to raise the exp curve till 50 now? aha ;o

Oh, it wasn't my words, it was Gojin words.
He said that he end the game after he has reached level 50

I dont want to spend more time on this crappy game then I have to getting to 50.

[Bearforce]

Leveling up has gotten way too easy.

In the past having a job leveled meant something.

You'd go and focus your character's career in certain job, maybe two if you had the time, and you invested in it. And eventually you'd hit the max level and get all your capped gear... and people would see it, and it'd give them something to look up to.

You'd become known amongst your friends as the healer or the tank or the damage dealer, depending on what your focus was.

But now everyone has pretty much everything leveled thanks to the new and dumb leveling curve. People even level a job to max just for the sake of equipping ifrit drops. And they get there within a week.

Most of the equipment you buy lasts less than a day since you are always qualifying for an upgrade because levels less than an hour to be completed.

You can get from 1 to 50 in just days if you shut your brain off through it.

Whats wrong with taking your time to build your character? Why must people who just started playing be doing endgame content?

Rate this thread up if you'd like for a steeper exp curve on the levels.

hardly an issue to make a topic. iam sure SE is more worried about fixing the game then filling your non-existant needs.

[Atoli]

I don't really know what to think about it.
Personally, I'm not Plvling at all, because the game is more than enough fun in lower lvls too, not just the end game content.
I don't know if people realized it yet, but hey, there's an Ifrit at lvl 25/30-something too!
There's also a dungeon, no wait, two dungeons, lots of quests, NMs, etc.

Someone asked what's the point in doing them if you can get to rank 50 in a week?
Well, guess what - because it is fun and it means PLAYING the game instead of standing around doing nothing for days just to sit on your lvl 50 afterwards and run to the forums QQing you are bored on lvl 50..?>.>"

I for once enjoy the mid-lvl range like never before, there's a lot to do, and it's fun to do it.
Sometimes I actually DO join an exp group, but that's like..once in two weeks.

But I also know people who think of it differently, for example someone in my LS is afraid they might make it harder to lvl up again after 1.20, so he's lvling like crazy now, getting his CON from rank 30 to 50 in less than two days.
(same goes for other classes, I just used CON as an example because CON is my main class too, and I've been lurking around lvl 30 for weeks).

Sometimes I kind of feel the pressure..like, I think I should join a Plvling group too, later it might be even harder, bla bla..
That's what I don't like about the current lvling curve.
Or that people I usually play with are now 20 ranks above me and I can't play with them anymore other than getting Plvl'd by THEM.

But at the same time, the way the lvling curve is right now, it gives us the choice to decide ourself how fast we want to lvl up; if we want to enjoy content in the beginning and in the middle or just rush through to the lvl cap.

So yeah.
I don't know if I should vote for or against a change

[AdvancedWind]

Make 1-20 slighty harder. Nerf exp chains and links a bit. Call it a day.

Currently, someone who knows what he's doing and can only play 1-2 hours during the week and more during the weekends (IE, the play style aimed by Yoshi-P) can reasonably cap one battle class in a bit less than a month with no PLing. We have 7 battle classes, so we can sorta round it down to 3~6 months to level all battle classes (remember, no PLing, no 4h+ with a static party a day every day). Then we have crafting and gathering. That alone is enough for literally a YEAR of doing NOTHING OTHER THAN GRIND. Let's not even forget that 50 is a temporary cap.

This, however, assumes the player knows what he's doing. For a new player, the first class will likely take 2+ months unless he is PL'd. During that period, he will also have to find a good linkshell, acquire money, materia, learn to play, do some end game, etc, etc. For the average gamer, the current grind is actually fine. For the gamer with lots of time, hardly any level curve will be enough. These should NOT be the chosen stardard to balance regular leveling around, sorry.

As for "learning how to play in parties", mindless grinding hardly teaches us how to avoid Batraal's laser, rush Dzemael or evade Eruptions. At best, we learn that no matter how far we are from the hedgemole, it's AoE will always hit us. =/

[PrettyPrincess]

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