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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    sounds to me like a person having all character classes almost up to lv 50 and havent leveled since patch 1.19.

    its a mess since patch 1.19 for leveling solo as a conjurer (you make much less damage than before) and the mobs are much harder than before. it was easy for me pushing low level class characters with my lv 39 physical level ...

    5 star leves? no problem for me solo as a lv 4 class character.


    sorry, doesnt really sound to me that you had experienced the level system since patch 1.19... of wait... you have your lv 50 thm yet.
    my lvl before 1.19 : thm 50, gla 50, cnj 45-ish, lnc 22, arc 22, mrd 30, pug 24
    i have now : everything @ 50 except pug 43, arc 41
    So yes, i kinda experienced the new lvl system.

    I'm happy with the fact that we can now xp in party don't get me wrong, but i completely disagree about the insane amount of xp we get only by spamming random aoe over and over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaedhen View Post
    my lvl before 1.19 : thm 50, gla 50, cnj 45-ish, lnc 22, arc 22, mrd 30, pug 24
    i have now : everything @ 50 except pug 43, arc 41
    So yes, i kinda experienced the new lvl system.

    I'm happy with the fact that we can now xp in party don't get me wrong, but i completely disagree about the insane amount of xp we get only by spamming random aoe over and over again.
    ok well then please do not talk about "exping" when you pushed all your characters in AEO groups... do me a favour and level your pug to lv 50 (a mage class would have been better, or from lv 1 till max) till lv 50 just doing solo content (guildleves etc.)

    its like I'd complain about the exp curve when letting high level characters power level my low char till lv 50. sorry. and.. you seem to have much time. me does not


    are you one of these guys that want to have back to old trashy, brillant "fatigue system"? *sarcasm off*
    maybe thats why you complain about "fast leveling".

    Quote Originally Posted by Engineer View Post
    Like once your at cap, instead of seeing 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 on everyone, im saying it should be more content wise
    agreed.. but there we come to the "real" problem.. its the missing content. you cant do much except grinding and doing guildleves.

    and thats why some players complain about "fast" leveling because they are frightened to see, that there is no content after doing the grind *lol


    thats a MUCH more important point. the less content we are having till now. and its not just about boss fights.. there should be much better, exciting! SIDEQUEST's for leveling! not just even guildleves and stuff.

    what is really way too easy are the missions and quests
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    ok well then please do not talk about "exping" when you pushed all your characters in AEO groups... do me a favour and level your pug to lv 50 (a mage class would have been better, or from lv 1 till max) till lv 50 just doing solo content (guildleves etc.)
    I lvled my thm 1 to 50 solo with the fatigue system on. It wasn't that hard, and it's not harder now. Just slower than xp pt.
    its like I'd complain about the exp curve when letting high level characters power level my low char till lv 50. sorry. and.. you seem to have much time. me does not
    What exactly i am supposed to do ? I'm not having that much time to play no matter what you seems to think. When i do i choose the easy way yes, but this kind of easy way shouldn't exist. I'm not gonna solo random mobs just to show everyone i'm against the amount of xp you get in xp pt.
    are you one of these guys that want to have back to old trashy, brillant "fatigue system"? *sarcasm off*
    maybe thats why you complain about "fast leveling".
    Never said that. But it's true i'm not too happy about the fact that it took me months to get 2 jobs to 50 while now you can do it in a week pretty easily. Seems to me like SE isn't rewarding the ones who played right from the start (or almost right from the start). I know they need more ppl on the game and making the lvling easy is one way to be more attractive to the new players. It's just that I don't think it's how they should treat the ones who supported the game for a whole year.

    Besides that, just like the OP said, I think it's nice to have ppl specialized in certain jobs and not everything. When you start a ls event, you know who's gonna be the healer, who are the strong DDs, who's the tank and so on. It has some kind of roleplay vibe that is now gone.
    agreed.. but there we come to the "real" problem.. its the missing content. you cant do much except grinding and doing guildleves.
    If, like you say, you don't have too much time to play, there's quite enough content. guildleves, company leves, chocobo caravans, toto-rak, shopshae, sidesquests, strongholds, dzamael, nms, ... it's not perfect but that should keep you busy for a while.
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    Yet another troll thread. Leveling is beyond easy. Try playing the game instead of just being bad if you think leveling is hard at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visch View Post
    Yet another troll thread. Leveling is beyond easy. Try playing the game instead of just being bad if you think leveling is hard at all.
    Yet another one who post without even reading the OP ? It's exactly what we're saying, xp is too easy.
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    only people who want new leveling are already at cap and just want to make it harder for other people so they can boast an brag. You people are like those people in the military who are all like "They're taking away retirement at 20 yrs well I already got mine who cares" freaking selfish bastards thinking end game content is only for them. Everyone else paid their money for this game too they have a right to get to see it as well.
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    Read my previous posts, i've already answered about that. I'm happy about the fact that xp is more party than solo oriented. And for the record, you heard complains about guildleves because ppl stick with their 5 stars rather than lowering them to 1-2 stars. Get mobs same lvl as you and it's a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaedhen View Post
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    Read my previous posts, i've already answered about that. I'm happy about the fact that xp is more party than solo oriented. And for the record, you heard complains about guildleves because ppl stick with their 5 stars rather than lowering them to 1-2 stars. Get mobs same lvl as you and it's a joke.
    no its not, not as a conjurer for example... see and thats what you THINK... create a new character please and try it out yourself! dont talk about things you've not experienced.

    its not that easy than before. Killing down a mob of your level isnt going that fast as before. s.. it seems like they have much more LP, but they have much higher defenses now.. especially a mage class (con) knows this. before i killed mobs with 3-6 lvs higher than me without any prob.

    so it isnt about "lowering your stars to 1-2" blabla... it was really hard for me doing 1 star lv 40 leves with my lv 38/39 con as an example.


    you have much more to chose whisely which element is the best against the mob... one element does 86 dmg on the mob, while the other does around 180-240.. and elements which are neutral to the mob are doing around 100-170.. so you're not doing 240 dmg all the time no matter which spell you casted right now... comes to the conclusion you're doing not that much damage as before.

    and i think it does involve all other classes as well. killing mobs of your own lv and higher is a bit harder than before (and taking more time as well). everyone experienced that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    no its not, not as a conjurer for example... see and thats what you THINK... create a new character please and try it out yourself! dont talk about things you've not experienced.

    its not that easy than before. Killing down a mob of your level isnt going that fast as before. s.. it seems like they have much more LP, but they have much higher defenses now.. especially a mage class (con) knows this. before i killed mobs with 3-6 lvs higher than me without any prob.

    so it isnt about "lowering your stars to 1-2" blabla... it was really hard for me doing 1 star lv 40 leves with my lv 38/39 con as an example.


    you have much more to chose whisely which element is the best against the mob... one element does 86 dmg on the mob, while the other does around 180-240.. and elements which are neutral to the mob are doing around 100-170.. so you're not doing 240 dmg all the time no matter which spell you casted right now... comes to the conclusion you're doing not that much damage as before.

    and i think it does involve all other classes as well. killing mobs of your own lv and higher is a bit harder than before (and taking more time as well). everyone experienced that
    And this is a good thing. You're not supposed to lay waste to things that are 5 levels higher than you.

    I say this being both a CNJ and slowly leveling other classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    And this is a good thing. You're not supposed to lay waste to things that are 5 levels higher than you.

    I say this being both a CNJ and slowly leveling other classes.
    i didnt say that its a bad thing. i just said with this... that they havent taken in concern that killed much easier mobs in patches before.

    they leveled also in a broken exp system, because monsters of 3-6 lvs higher than you or of your own level havent been any competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    And once you are 50 with all classes what then?
    Do you end the game because you have all classes to 50 and don't want spend more time in this game? What is the point to play the game at all for you?

    OP: +1
    haha thats funny... so can we see the real problem now? they need to implement content, not just make the grind harder. ;d

    and you really think lv 50 will be the endgame maximum level? naive you. if we will habe a maximum lv of 90 one day, you want to raise the exp curve till 50 now? aha ;o


    Quote Originally Posted by Baxter View Post
    I think it is fine. If you do not want to be power leveled don't join a group that has a PL. If a PL shows up leave your group if you feel that strongly about it. You say you are for choice, but then you request to eliminate options because youre not manning up by turning down PL requests.
    agreed
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