Thread: 3.3 AST adjustments

Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Noct.AST is actually very very powerful......as the main healer along side a sch

Oh my god no. Running ast on noct sect alongside a sch is possibly the worst thing you can do besides curing in cleric stance.

Originally Posted by Alistaire

Oh my god no. Running ast on noct sect alongside a sch is possibly the worst thing you can do besides curing in cleric stance.

No it really isnt. And people need to get this out of their head. Please read carefully what i have written and how i elaborated on this rather than quoting me out of context with an ulterior motive of trying to make an issue out of a non-issue.

There are places where if you run AST/SCH, with the scholar leaving all the healing for the AST, it can be more beneficial for the AST to run Nocturnal sect over Diurnal Sect depending on the encounter. I have done this, i know others that have done this.

Do not try and crassly conflate a raid group making a conscious decision to run an instance like this with voice communication and absolutely defined roles with what you are trying to; this is with the average DF person just making bad choices with which sect to run depending on which co-healer they are presented with.

Deliberately quoting out of context is poor form indeed. The fact that you have deliberately cut off half of the sentence you quoted just show you are here to do nothing other than partake in a very crass point scoring manoeuvre.

Nocturnal AST isn't weak at the current patch (3.2) and this buffs are fair considering the feedback that the players are giving about the high AoE damage that happen on later Savage floors, specially A8S. The real problem about SCH vs NoctAST dilemma is that SCH has much more to offer to a party than the Nocturnal AST. But this doesn't mean they can't progress savage, just that SCH is much more powerfull.

A friend has been progressing Midas Savage on Nocturnal for a while and he is currently working on A8S. As a SCH I've been discussing with him how he could use Synasty in the best way so Aspected Helios would shield the party for some AoE spams. With this changes, a Synastry Aspected Helios Shield will get close to a Deploy Adlo, and you can even "spam" it during Synastry duration! This is really cool and can only add to Noct AST effectiveness and some few advantages over SCH as well. Please understand that Noct AST isn't bad, its just SCH that is much, much better for a solid progression on early stages of a raid tier.

Yeah, the power of constant shielding that Noct AST will gain is pretty superior than SCH's. But SCH is a powerhouse of utility, they have a lot of stuff they can just use at the same time and don't get punished by it because other healing is doing most of the jobs. Noct AST doesn't have that powerhouse of brust and utility, so I think that making him having more powerfull constant stuff is a good decision and work around making Noct AST stand out into something. I'd say Noct AST by now its better than SCH to mitigate long moments of AoE spam like J Waves(A8S). But since SCH has their utility and a lot of powerfull OGCDs they're better overall on most other situations. I'm glad Noct AST has something to stand out now. How they'll be on next raid tier will depend more on fights design than anything else.

The real problem of all of this all aren't actually int the jobs themselves, but how healing should be done by design. We just need more complex healing mechanics instead of plain free damage spam.