Compensation for the early Sub fee

[TatlTael]

Getting to play the 7th umbral era storyline is our compensation as anyone not paying up before 2.0 won't get to play through it. I really wouldn't want to watch the dev teams every move in their office. I do like behind the scenes stuff but I prefer it to be a short video that has the best info shown together. I was quite disappointed when I popped in the making of disc that came with the CE only to find out it was just the same stuff that I had already seen on youtube...

[Preypacer]

Sense of entitlement? Really so spending $75 and now an addition of the subscription fee before a complete product and we the customer have no right to be entitled for sticking by a product we believe in while others leave and let it die? Tell me something when you pay for a meal at a restaurant are you not entitled to a completely cooked and edible meal? When you purchase a tool from lowes or home depot are you not entitled the guaranty that it will be reliable and function properly? The fact of the matter is I put my hard earned money in to a game and feel entitled to what the product guaranties not a half finish product.

I digress I already said I'm staying for the long haul and I never said those items have to be game changing or ridiculous I would be happy with a title or something just so that people know we were the few who stuck by when no one else would because we believed in the work of the dev team.

Also the content they are creating for v2.0 I can argue should have been in the game at release not 2 or 3 years after the fact.

Well when you twist and distort the situation beyond all recognition as you have... I can see how you'd see it that way.

However, your version of the situation isn't reality.

First... It's not an "early subscription". In fact, subscriptions have been delayed. We weren't charged anything for the past 13 months since the game's launch, remember?

Next, it was announced almost a year ago that SE would start subscriptions when they met 2 criteria:
1) They had a clear and attainable roadmap for the game to go forward with. With the creation and announcement of the 2.0 roadmap, they have accomplished this.
2) The game had been developed and restored to a point where they felt it would be worthy as a standard launch title. With a couple key features Yoshi has pointed out (proper market/AH system and proper party-finding/search system), among other additions, that time will be the release of 1.20.

Looking at all the revisions made to the game, all the content in the game now (leves, storyline missions, side-quests, class quests, crafting, behest, grand companies, HNMs, NMs, multiple classes to level etc. etc.).. there is certainly quite a lot of content for a brand-new player just starting out to do.

Yoshi and SE have done exactly what they said they were going to do. They set the time-table and the requirements, and they stuck to them.

Now the ball's in our court.

If folks feel it's not worth a sub fee yet, then fine... they have the option to hold off and not pay anything 'til they feel it is. Just as would be the case with any other MMO.

You mention paying $75 for the game. So did I, twice. So did many people. We've all gotten over a year to play the game sub-free, add up the sub fees for about 5 months and you've got your $75's worth. If you chose not to play for all that time, that's not SE's problem. To come back now and claim "I didn't get my money's worth!" after 13+ months to play to your heart's content rings a bit hollow.

You run the same risk of not liking the game when you buy any title... Collector's Edition or otherwise. It doesn't entitle you to dictate to SE when they are allowed to charge you a sub. It entitles you to make the same decision everyone else who's bought the game has to make... to pay and continue playing, or to cancel and come back at a later date.

Beyond that.. your "Reality TV" suggestion is ridiculous. Sure, let's have a live feed into SE's offices, looking over their shoulders so competitors can get insight into what they're doing and lift some ideas for themselves.

Yeah... You clearly thought that idea through. -roll eyes-

[Preypacer]

SHUT UP!!!
i clicked on this forum out of boredom so i didnt read anything else you wrote but this by chance caught my eye.
I WANT THIS!
i like watching others play aaaaaalmost as much as i like playing.

You didn't really get to watch them for long unless you were lucky and it stopped right in a spot where party was xp'ing. Most of the time it was just flying through different zones. It *was* very cool though.

I always wondered what server it was on.

[irongripz]

Also the content they are creating for v2.0 I can argue should have been in the game at release not 2 or 3 years after the fact.

also content being made between. my personal issue is the broken mechanics of the game. the slow sluggish clunky battle system.

[Balbanes]

OP sounds equally as creepy as he is entitled. Don't like how things are going? Don't pay. It's that simple.

[Gavyn]

I think what it really comes down to is whether or not you want to support Yoshi-P and his team with all of this hard work they're doing. I for one will be supporting them, despite how I feel about the current state of the game. They seem to be listening to player suggestions and I admire that. They're bringing things I wanted in the game, and hopefully they'll bring the things I REALLY want in this game shortly after 2.0. (Jobs, mostly, especially Blue Mages and Thieves)

[Liniont]

-_- this is why I hate people... I feel like no one even attempts to read or envision anything with an open mind and even try... hence why the gaming industry is the way it is... forget I even posted this thread... I brought up the idea and I already stated I was staying and this was just a suggestion... you people need to read my F***ing post fully and learn how to comprehend what I'm writing instead of scanning the words and then having panic attacks over specific sentences it was meant to be taken as a whole not dissected and then assuming I mean this or labeling me that. whatever feel free to reply whatever you want I'm not coming back to this thread...

[irongripz]

I think what it really comes down to is whether or not you want to support Yoshi-P and his team with all of this hard work they're doing. I for one will be supporting them, despite how I feel about the current state of the game. They seem to be listening to player suggestions and I admire that. They're bringing things I wanted in the game, and hopefully they'll bring the things I REALLY want in this game shortly after 2.0. (Jobs, mostly, especially Blue Mages and Thieves)

i support yoshi 'wooohooo go yoshi'....about as far as that goes. the hard work being done now should have been done 5 years ago and before they launched.

[irongripz]

-_- this is why I hate people... I feel like no one even attempts to read or envision anything with an open mind and even try... hence why the gaming industry is the way it is... forget I even posted this thread... I brought up the idea and I already stated I was staying and this was just a suggestion... you people need to read my F***ing post fully and learn how to comprehend what I'm writing instead of scanning the words and then having panic attacks over specific sentences it was meant to be taken as a whole not dissected and then assuming I mean this or labeling me that. whatever feel free to reply whatever you want I'm not coming back to this thread...

easy big fella these trolls are ruthless they will feed off your emotions. give it time reasonable people will come in and actually have something positive to add to your idea. these guys are still a little hurt from last few threads similar to this so they instantly think you want to play the game for free.

[NibelungValesti]

Sooo 1 year free wasn't good enough. You want compensation for the compensation you already got.

lol.