Compensation for the early Sub fee

[Agoven]

I didn't see anywhere in Liniont's OP where there was whining, complaining, or a sense of entitlement.

What I interpreted from it is that if SE is asking us to trust them enough to expect us to pay upfront now for something that will be finished in the future, perhaps more people would be on board if we could see what it is we're paying for.

Perhaps hidden cameras are going a bit far, but blog posts, screenshots and progress videos are not the least bit unreasonable.

Many players don't believe this game is yet sub worthy, and will still not be at that point at 1.20. No matter how many improvements they make and how much content they add, there are many MMO basics they simply cannot give us until 2.0. It's for that reason many believe this game won't be sub worthy until then.

SE is asking us to pay for a promise. I think it's fair we see something more concrete.

I think it was pretty clear we are paying for the content exclusive to b4 2.0 comes out. And the OPINION that this isn't sub ready is that a matter of opinion. And the numbers who are actually quitting is by far fewer then these forums make it sound like. Unfortunately, the people who enjoy the game won't touch these forums because of these sorts of posts. Ask anyone that is paying for the Sub or enjoying the game. They don't want to come here...they don't want to post anything.

Many of those whining have also been playing for a year for free. If it wasn't pay worthy why did they enjoy the game for a full year? If it was so bad why didn't they quit? Perhaps it wasn't for everyone's liking or taste. There's a lot worse out there...mostly the people who don't want to pay is because it's free...and they want to milk that as long as possible.

If they had charged for subs since release the community that was enjoying the game and seeing the changes would be thriving. Instead, we have to deal with this sort of stuff...which most of us would gladly pay to see go away.

Any MMO has it's growing pains...and every wise person unless they enjoy or want to delve into the 1st year of an MMO knows there's lots that happen the first year. So for those people who think this is a horrid game...just go away and come back with 2.0. The download for it will be free to those that already have the the current game.

SE isn't charging you.

The rest of us want to pay to experience the next year and we want to progress and get unique gears that's being offered and a great storyline to see end. Just because a small pocket of you want this game for free don't try to loop us into that. This is a business after all...and SE has customers PAYING customers.

And those who are complaining...keep saying many? Many is how many 250 people? Most everyone I know who've I've played with since release are staying. So the many retort is futile...it's a small margin leaving if that...most SE fans know their games and they also know and like the fact and most MMO players like exclusives they'll stay for an exclusive item here and there...There were plenty that renewed their FF11 subscription or bought one just to get the worthless Hermes Shoes...so um...yeah. We do put our money where our mouth is.

And you miss the fact that Japanese are very prideful people. The fact that the president came out and made the statement about FFXIV hurting the franchise. Companies over there don't take it lightly when they feel like they've done an injustice to themselves. It is unfounded that a president would say such a thing. Well they made a flop that didn't make many gamers happy...instead of making a game that appealed to everyone they made a game that appealed to a small fraction of peeps. How many games out there have done that? PLENTY!!!

The game is already great...and given more time...I see massive appeal in the near future.