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  1. #131
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    vp_cmc's Avatar
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    Tee Hee
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 80
    I have mixed feelings about brd buffs. Of course, if it becomes too strong to ignore, I may switch to it from mch again.

    But potency changes do nothing with overall playing experience. You have the same missed BL procs, interrupted casts after repelling shot, etc. I don't remember anyone complaining about just potency numbers (or dps), but I saw a lot of people complaining about gameplay on bard (I myself felt a lot better on mch, because you don't have contradicting mechanics there) - no changes here.
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  2. 06-04-2016 08:34 AM

  3. #132
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Character
    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    BRD & NIN will be so much more fun now. Katon from 170 to 250/Doton & Death blossom increases holy crap. Songs cast time halved/various damage buffs holy crap.



    Death Blossom is a cross class skill too lol, time to be a Gladiator.....
    Death Blossom could easily still stay at 60 potency without the trait.

    The boosts are cool, but they don't change your rotations at all. Probably just further incentive since ninjas are the worst at knowing when they should aoe in dungeons. But the threshholds are all the same as they've always been as to when a NIN should aoe, and when you should use katon instead of doton.
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  4. #133
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Good then, so crafter still have their unique to meld materia.
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  5. #134
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    Mahono's Avatar
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    Mahono Miyagi
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Darkside at 20% would be a little over the top in PVE in my opinion. But adding that debuff to sole survivor in PVE actually isn't a bad idea, giving drk some sort offense based group utility makes sense.
    so WAR being able to mantain maim (+20%) + berserk (50%), unchained (ignores 25% dmg penalty in tank stance), slashing resistance down(10%) and godly fell cleave (500). While having a tank stance of +25% health and 20% increase hp recovery is okay. But DRK 20% darkside would be over the top.. i dont see why..

    P.S. just food for thought and healthy discussion.. not attacking anyone.
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    Last edited by Mahono; 06-04-2016 at 08:42 AM.

  6. #135
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Character
    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    So we've got the dungeon gear


    Caster/Ninja/Drg/???

    Monk/Healer/Tank/Ranged

    Am i missing something? What is ???. I'd have thought it was the healer set if i hadn't already seen the healer using that one set in the trailer. Or maybe they're not all from dungeons, if not, where?

    Edit: I know now that the top sets are from Mhach
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    Last edited by Averax; 06-04-2016 at 08:51 AM.

  7. #136
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Character
    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Probably bard.
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  8. #137
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    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahono View Post
    Snip
    I say "over the top" not because I think warrior is fine. But rather if drk gets that drastic of a dps buff (20% DS and 10% debuff with Sole Survivor) it will be WAY too good in comparison to paladin. Paladin would once again become the third wheel tank rather than it's current situation of being essentially equal to drk.
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  9. #138
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kytre Ashaer
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    So we've got the dungeon gear


    Caster/Ninja/Drg/???

    Monk/Healer/Tank/Ranged

    Am i missing something? What is ???. I'd have thought it was the healer set if i hadn't already seen the healer using that one set in the trailer.
    Top pic is Mhach gear, bottom is dungeon
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  10. #139
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    Ragology's Avatar
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    Character
    Brown Sugar
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahono View Post
    so WAR being able to mantain maim (+20%) + berserk (50%), unchained (ignores 25% dmg penalty in tank stance), slashing resistance down(10%) and 3x fell cleave (500) while having a tank stance of +25% health and 20% increase hp recovery is okay. But DRK 20% darkside would be over the top.. i dont see why..

    P.S. just food for thought and healthy discussion.. not attacking anyone.
    Well RNG aside, all tanks die in the same number of hits while in tank stance, and PLD/DRK are about 5% easier to top off than a WAR, who has to make up the difference with their self heals.
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  11. #140
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Top pic is Mhach gear, bottom is dungeon
    Oh. They're missing some sets and the caster set is missing the hat, so that threw me off.
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