Thread: 3.3 Patch Notes(Pre)

Originally Posted by Alistaire

Doton has nothing to do with the # of mobs pulled.

I mainly mentioned that because most +5 pulls in general do seem to take longer than smaller groups of adds (You mentioned Antitower but Lost City (HM) also has several pulls like this, the mass pull at the gate that spawns butterflys is the main one i can think of as well as the 2 pulls before the Winged Lion boss) I'm definitely not the best NIN, average honestly and AoEing is something I did have to do a bit of research on once I hit 50 and 9 times outta 10 up until I got to 60 if i used a Doton, the targets would be alive for its full duration and then by then if i had another ninjustu id probably follow up with katon at that point unless i was the only one AoEing. Even then there are a lot of pulls I have seen that do last at least 30-40 seconds, slightly less if my healer is dpsing too (Typically looking out for my dots as a SMN. Bio II does fall off in many mass pull instances, sometimes requiring me to bane again even if the enemy is not low enough). In content where the whole party is over-geared and dpsing or in a lot of raid instances yeah things do melt pr fast when its trash like some of void ark's 24 man trash rooms.

I will admit Doton overall is underwhelming but I dont think its super useless. Maybe its just because Doton reminds me a lot of Shadowflare lol

Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

Cause ninjas sucked in pvp. This will have them have a reason to bring one.

That would explain it, I noticed WAR didn't get that change given back to it, unless that happened in an earlier patch. Wonder how much itll help.....