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    katon should have been "stonekin" for the nin for 5s or something like that.....or a debuff that lowers dmg done ...
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    katon should have been "stonekin" for the nin for 5s or something like that.....or a debuff that lowers dmg done ...
    Ninjas already have a "Stoneskin", it's called Shade Shift. Why would a NIN have a mitigation debuff? They're more of a character support type rather than raid support, what with aggro management skills and Goad. I suppose the only raid support they do have is Trick Attack. But NIN is in a good spot in regards to support, so I don't see why this is being brought up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    Ninjas already have a "Stoneskin", it's called Shade Shift.
    I hate this, personally... I miss Perfect Dodge so much... Nothing like sitting in a Landslide and dodging it... Could have had amazing synergy with Haymaker, if Haymaker was worth a damn, too...

    As far as changing Katon/Dotons effect... I'm hoping SE eventually gives us a Ninjutsu for every possible combination of Mudra... So rather than having two combinations for Doton, we perhaps have Ten→Jin→Chi for Doton, and Jin→Ten→Chi for "Doton II", perhaps a Stun + Knockback (though that's useless outside PvP) with an animation similar to Suiton (but with stone instead of water)... "Huton II" would be Utsusemi, because damn right it should be... Alternatively, rather than making use of the excess combinations, we could just have a cooldown that alters their effects...

    Really hope 4.0 gives us more Ninjutsu to play with somehow... 3.0s skills weren't bad, but they're kinda boring to look at... A new set of flashy Ninjutsu would be sweet...
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    Last edited by Nalien; 06-06-2016 at 01:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    katon should have been "stonekin" for the nin for 5s or something like that.....or a debuff that lowers dmg done ...
    Do you mean doton? Katon is the fire one. Asking for a fire ability to be stoneskin doesn't make much sense, but an earth one would, which is doton. Doton would be fine as is if it didn't have such a high requirement of uptime to be on par with katon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Do you mean doton? Katon is the fire one. Asking for a fire ability to be stoneskin doesn't make much sense, but an earth one would, which is doton. Doton would be fine as is if it didn't have such a high requirement of uptime to be on par with katon.
    yeah doton , my bad.

    yeah nin have a CD that mitigates 20% hp (physical only tho...so useles in 80% of the bosses where it really matters....)

    Doton....the aoe is weak and used once in a blue moon , and debuff like virus or -10% dmg taken inside the aoe (sch bubble) or -dmg done like war would have been awesome the debuff need to last and Nin would sacrifice dps for it ....
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    Last edited by Warlyx; 06-06-2016 at 07:27 AM.