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  1. #71
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    Cetonis's Avatar
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    Sana Cetonis
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    Sorry if I sound dumb but what is wrong with Dots on BRD?
    Bard's problems in current content stem from how weak they are when they can't keep their DoTs running on any targets. Each time they have to either apply their DoTs anew, or forgo them entirely in the case of an add that isn't going to last very long, they lose out on hundreds of potency. Additionally, Flaming Arrow gets undermined by mechanics that cause the boss to be moved around.

    Making the DoT/FA ticks stronger doesn't really change any of this - in fact, it makes the gap in DPS between a Bard-friendly fight and a Bard-punishing fight even wider. While raising the ceiling damage by 5% or so will of course raise the floor damage by a few percent as well, the goal should have been to raise the floor by 6-8% while ideally only adding maybe 1-3% to the ceiling.

    And if SE actually took the time to understand how 3.0 Bard works, there were at least a few relatively obvious ways to make strides towards that goal, and a lot of room for creative solutions as well. Chief among the options would have been a duration compression on Flaming Arrow, better initial-hit damage on Windbite / Venomous Bite, significant oGCD attack buffs, an extension of Straight Shot's duration, addressing the WM vs. River anti-synergy, some way to get consolation damage when DoTs are down, or a couple other things.

    But the Blunt Arrow change is the only thing on that list that they actually did - other than that it's a bunch of fairly thoughtless "we don't know what to do so let's just add a little bit to everything" buff. (Granted the song changes make a lot of sense, but that's sort of a separate category that doesn't take much of any class-specific knowledge to grasp)

    If A9-12 roughly resemble A3, A4, A5, and A8 in style (as in, if A1-2 and A6-7 are true outliers), then the final numerical result of all this could actually be okay. Bard will be a little better in a fight or two, Machinist a little better in a fight or two, and they'd be even-ish in a fight or two.

    But now the onus is on SE to actually produce those suitable fight designs - while also not botching BLM vs. SMN - when they could have had more freedom if they targeted Bard's weaknesses for buffs rather than just making their strengths even better.
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    Last edited by Cetonis; 06-04-2016 at 12:24 AM.

  2. #72
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    Antonio_Xul's Avatar
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyVal View Post
    I'm starting to think it might be, because the color scheme for the mount's armor and the Field Commander's armor are almost identical. Plus if you look at the side of the mount, it does /kind/ of look like the Maelstrom symbol. I'm thinking this might be the Field Commander's Pegasus or something similar. And if they want to get people into PvP, what better way to do it than to add a double mount? I didn't see anything else that seemed like it would lead to a mount, and I'm hoping they stay true to their word and say that mentors will not get additional rewards to keep people from getting the status for the wrong reasons.

    I think it's going to come from Recruitment. The 2-seater mounts have only come from Recruitment or Marriage since both involve being with someone, either friend or spouse.
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  3. #73
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    RLofOBFL's Avatar
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    Lala Yuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cetonis View Post
    Bard's problems in current content stem from how weak they are when they can't keep their DoTs running on any targets. Each time they have to either apply their DoTs anew, or forgo them entirely in the case of an add that isn't going to last very long, they lose out on hundreds of potency.

    So what would've solved this exactly? Slight potency increases on Heavy/Straight/Emp? Or something like a flat out let's say 50 potency boost to Emp so it can not only make BRD opener much stronger but take down adds quicker. Sidewinder applying dots is not a bad idea....
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/12116351/


  4. #74
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Lots of QOL adjustments which is great to see! Things like Waymarks on the mini-map, hiding duty elements, multiple HUDs, looking for raid etc. are welcome additions. Can't wait for the new story elements too =) It's looking to be a good patch.

    For the class changes:
    - BRD buffs 0.0 I hope this means we'll see more BRDs actually singing
    - SMN buff is also unexpected, and really only cements Garuda as the better Egi. Free DPS \o/
    - AST I was hoping for more Noct buffs based on a recent interview from Yoshi =(
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  5. #75
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    Sana Cetonis
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    So what would've solved this exactly? Slight potency increases on Heavy/Straight/Emp? Or something like a flat out let's say 50 potency boost to Emp so it can not only make BRD opener much stronger but take down adds quicker. Sidewinder applying dots is not a bad idea....
    Edited in a few things above, but the most plainly obvious thing to do would be to make WB and VB do 20-40p more on their initial applications. Nothing of substance would change in terms of sustained output, but damage on short-lived targets would be a solid notch better.

    The second most obvious move would be to do virtually-anything to make FA less awful when the boss is going to be on the move. That could be making it do more per tick for a shorter duration, or making it act like Collective Unconscious maybe, or some other solution.

    In both cases, SE just added potency to the DoT ticks, which does nothing when those ticks don't happen but (unnecessarily) a lot when they do.
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    Ren Kurosaki
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Boss_Koivula View Post
    The amount of buffs bards just got holy shit.
    BRD LIFE!!
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    [super inactive on this Forum LOL]

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    Andevom Vonskivaux
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    All I have to say is that someone on the staff must really love Johnny Bravo. Not only because of the hairstyle, but because apparently we can all "Do the monkey" now.



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  9. #78
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    Yehn'zi Panipahr
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    Coeurl
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    Oh man, the moment I stop playing BRD is the moment they get buffed... T^T Why Square? I was finally ready to hang up my harp, now you gotta do this to me...

    Sole Survivor buff should totally be PvE; would be nice to bring some utility to the party.

    Everything else looks good but I also feel like there are so many small things we've been promised that should be here and aren't. :/
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    Last edited by sarehptar; 06-04-2016 at 12:55 AM.

  10. #79
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    Yi Sug
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Andevom View Post
    All I have to say is that someone on the staff must really love Johnny Bravo. Not only because of the hairstyle, but because apparently we can all "Do the monkey" now.



    https://twitter.com/BoxShroom/status/738222272033345536
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  11. #80
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I thought Shatter was for 3.35...
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