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    Khalithar's Avatar
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Kinda jealous the DRK buffs are PvP only, especially that Sole Survivor buff. As for Ninja that Katon buff is pretty huge. Not complaining one bit. Though I suspect little will change since I slowly found it better to use Katon over Doton anyway.
    Darkside at 20% would be a little over the top in PVE in my opinion. But adding that debuff to sole survivor in PVE actually isn't a bad idea, giving drk some sort offense based group utility makes sense.
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    Last edited by Khalithar; 06-03-2016 at 11:25 PM.

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Darkside at 20% would be a little over the top in PVE in my opinion. But adding that debuff to sole survivor in PVE actually isn't a bad idea, giving drk offense based group utility makes sense.
    I agree 100%. DS in 20% should be PVP only. But if SoSu did something everywhere it would give them some utility. Pretty much no positional attack required for a "Trick Attack" effect if you will. Mainly for the purpose of the DRK getting their restore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    I agree 100%. DS in 20% should be PVP only. But if SoSu did something everywhere it would give them some utility. Pretty much no positional attack required for a "Trick Attack" effect if you will. Mainly for the purpose of the DRK getting their restore.
    Now imagine if they stack, Trick Attack, Slashing debuff, and SoSu 10% all stacked. Would be pretty beastly and therefore never happen. XD
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Now imagine if they stack, Trick Attack, Slashing debuff, and SoSu 10% all stacked. Would be pretty beastly and therefore never happen. XD
    One thing the PvP people can try is to see if Trick, Slashing and the new SoSu do indeed stack. If they do it could be wonderful.
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    Mahono Miyagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Darkside at 20% would be a little over the top in PVE in my opinion. But adding that debuff to sole survivor in PVE actually isn't a bad idea, giving drk some sort offense based group utility makes sense.
    so WAR being able to mantain maim (+20%) + berserk (50%), unchained (ignores 25% dmg penalty in tank stance), slashing resistance down(10%) and godly fell cleave (500). While having a tank stance of +25% health and 20% increase hp recovery is okay. But DRK 20% darkside would be over the top.. i dont see why..

    P.S. just food for thought and healthy discussion.. not attacking anyone.
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    Last edited by Mahono; 06-04-2016 at 08:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahono View Post
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    I say "over the top" not because I think warrior is fine. But rather if drk gets that drastic of a dps buff (20% DS and 10% debuff with Sole Survivor) it will be WAY too good in comparison to paladin. Paladin would once again become the third wheel tank rather than it's current situation of being essentially equal to drk.
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    Brown Sugar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahono View Post
    so WAR being able to mantain maim (+20%) + berserk (50%), unchained (ignores 25% dmg penalty in tank stance), slashing resistance down(10%) and 3x fell cleave (500) while having a tank stance of +25% health and 20% increase hp recovery is okay. But DRK 20% darkside would be over the top.. i dont see why..

    P.S. just food for thought and healthy discussion.. not attacking anyone.
    Well RNG aside, all tanks die in the same number of hits while in tank stance, and PLD/DRK are about 5% easier to top off than a WAR, who has to make up the difference with their self heals.
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahono View Post
    so WAR being able to mantain maim (+20%) + berserk (50%), unchained (ignores 25% dmg penalty in tank stance), slashing resistance down(10%) and godly fell cleave (500). While having a tank stance of +25% health and 20% increase hp recovery is okay. But DRK 20% darkside would be over the top.. i dont see why..

    P.S. just food for thought and healthy discussion.. not attacking anyone.
    Not even sure you have played WAR. (100% Berserk and Unchained uptime, and Fell Cleaves in Defiance. Yeah...)
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