The Ifrit Fight is Dangerous to the Community.

[whoopeeragon]

And what makes it not enjoyable, save for the lag and loot system? Why is everyone else having fun in killing the horned cow? Why are people excited at the prospect of a challenging fight the first time round?

Heck, their concept video for the IFRIT fight didn't consist if just lancers and conjurers. They did it with all the combat classes, making it highly likely that they did test and try to develop it in vein of balanced enjoyment. And how do you expect inclusive feedback for something that won't be released for full usage? And this is an Eastern developer here, no matter what audience they're aiming for, thy are still gong to use their methods.

[SilvertearRen]

And what makes it not enjoyable, save for the lag and loot system? Why is everyone else having fun in killing the horned cow? Why are people excited at the prospect of a challenging fight the first time round?

Heck, their concept video for the IFRIT fight didn't consist if just lancers and conjurers. They did it with all the combat classes, making it highly likely that they did test and try to develop it in vein of balanced enjoyment. And how do you expect inclusive feedback for something that won't be released for full usage? And this is an Eastern developer here, no matter what audience they're aiming for, thy are still gong to use their methods.

Here, I bolded the key word there...

i rather not. the PTRs create the issues with competition and take the surprise factor out of the fights.

i rather get patch and be surprised by a difficult fight than knowing exactly what to do and steamroll the content once patch day is released.

Very understandable. Maybe a little bit of study on the devs' part on social engineering and balance dynamics is in order...

[Fieros]

And this is an Eastern developer here, no matter what audience they're aiming for, thy are still gong to use their methods.

lol, you said eastern and gong.

[whoopeeragon]

lol, you said eastern and gong.

Shhh. This is what happens with the iPhone's auto-correct function. >.<

[Raijin]

the fight can be won with a traditional party, don't blame SE when the community takes the path of least resistance to win.
hell ive had to heal thru sear damage even with lancers out of the ass so its most definitely doable

[Majidah]

OH NO, A CHALLENGING FIGHT IN FFXIV! SOMEONE NEEDS TO NERF IFRIT

[whoopeeragon]

Then it is of your very very very personal opinion that the fight is a 'time- wasting, stress-inducing' content. Yet you want the rest of the community which is happily doing such content to be inconvenienced all for the sake of your pleasure and demands? I like my néw content to be a surprise, thank you. I don't want any pre-knowledge of tactics on a fight that I want it to hit me like a blast. if that's what the inclusive testing feedback will show, then I'm heavily against it.

[Alerith]

Now I can't tell if the OP is being a troll or just frustratingly incompetent...

[CircusMidget]

Now I can't tell if the OP is being a troll or just frustratingly incompetent...

Both.
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[Chardrizard]

Now I can't tell if the OP is being a troll or just frustratingly incompetent...

I'll go with the latter. Thanks to the OP now he has embarassed people from his LS because he just told the world how incompetent they are, so very considerate of him.