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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
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    Nice summary of a Skinner Box. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quanta View Post
    Nice summary of a Skinner Box. :3


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    Amy, I don't appreciate you making assumptions about my psychology. It's rude.

    Actually, it makes me think of how I used to act towards my parent (Singular, Mom) when I was a teenager.

    I simply enjoy progression. Reread the OP, it's as simple as that. Aside from all that you said, did it ever occur to you that these kinds of games were made in the first place because people thought it would be a great idea to have a vast, open online adventure with RPG elements? It was like a nerd's dream.

    And for the love of god, please don't assume I don't know what you're trying to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    Amy, I don't appreciate you making assumptions about my psychology. It's rude.

    Actually, it makes me think of how I used to act towards my parent (Singular, Mom) when I was a teenager.

    I simply enjoy progression. Reread the OP, it's as simple as that. Aside from all that you said, did it ever occur to you that these kinds of games were made in the first place because people thought it would be a great idea to have a vast, open online adventure with RPG elements? It was like a nerd's dream.

    And for the love of god, please don't assume I don't know what you're trying to say.
    (It's not about you)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
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    Then choose your words more carefully, please. In the first paragraph after the bolded line.

    "That grind you were so fond of is the classic way you were programmed to be addicted. It honestly had nothing to do with skill, or even "content", but a stimulation of the reward centers of your brain."

    Mind, this directly followed quoting me. Either don't quote me when delivering brash psychological claims like that or adjust the way you make them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    Then choose your words more carefully, please. In the first paragraph after the bolded line.

    "That grind you were so fond of is the classic way you were programmed to be addicted. It honestly had nothing to do with skill, or even "content", but a stimulation of the reward centers of your brain."

    Mind, this directly followed quoting me. Either don't quote me when delivering brash psychological claims like that or adjust the way you make them.
    Well, you did bring it up, but the intention wasn't to humiliate you personally or anything. I thought it was clear by how I started with "How MMOs traditionally keep you involved for long periods of time performing otherwise dull, repetitive, and tedious tasks is by programming the player."

    Not everyone who eats chocolate, drinks alcohol, or gambles is an addict, but you can definitely point out how it can be addicting. That's all I'm trying to say here in the context of why powerleveling seems like a bad thing from the point-of-view of someone who went through an addictive grind, and why it doesn't really matter because leveling is not the most addictive (and time consuming) thing.
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