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    weeble's Avatar
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    Titan Arum
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    i haven't grinded since 8man leves and that was horribly boring, quick or not was not fun. while i have no classes to grind on i hear about all this pl stuff and i see how much exp i get in strongholds just at rank 50 that it is ridiculous. if this doesn't get fixed by time they add new classes i don't think i can stay with the game. progression is too important to me in mmo's, if i'm not progressing i don't want to play. hopefully they change this, personally i would rather see our first battle system (i know that never gonna happen lol) but you couldn't pl, duel box or leech ..you couldn't afk or you wouldn't get exp. now that is a system. shame it's gone, this game would of been great without it.
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    Zenaku Yamada
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    i haven't grinded since 8man leves and that was horribly boring, quick or not was not fun. while i have no classes to grind on i hear about all this pl stuff and i see how much exp i get in strongholds just at rank 50 that it is ridiculous. if this doesn't get fixed by time they add new classes i don't think i can stay with the game. progression is too important to me in mmo's, if i'm not progressing i don't want to play. hopefully they change this, personally i would rather see our first battle system (i know that never gonna happen lol) but you couldn't pl, duel box or leech ..you couldn't afk or you wouldn't get exp. now that is a system. shame it's gone, this game would of been great without it.
    People feel that grinding is not part of MMO so that why yoshi-p allow powerlevel. But most of us feel that progressing is part of any MMO that the best part. Endgame is just something you do too new class are release and you like to level them up but overall level up is what i look forward too.

    It hard to level up when everytime i enter a party no one know how to play there class / want powerlevel.
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    Physic's Avatar
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    Bladed Arms
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    i haven't grinded since 8man leves and that was horribly boring, quick or not was not fun. while i have no classes to grind on i hear about all this pl stuff and i see how much exp i get in strongholds just at rank 50 that it is ridiculous. if this doesn't get fixed by time they add new classes i don't think i can stay with the game. progression is too important to me in mmo's, if i'm not progressing i don't want to play. hopefully they change this, personally i would rather see our first battle system (i know that never gonna happen lol) but you couldn't pl, duel box or leech ..you couldn't afk or you wouldn't get exp. now that is a system. shame it's gone, this game would of been great without it.
    your exp is based on how much higher level the stuff is that you kill, how much link to it, your exp chain, your max tnl.

    the exp your level 50 has the potential is the highest in the game.

    the max amount of exp you can get credit for scales with your level, IE a level 10 can only get higher bonus on mobs like 3 levels higher than it, it gets no benefit for killing a mob 5 levels higher

    it all comes together to basically, the exp you are getting at 50 is not the exp people will get while leveling up. There are not many camps outside of strongholds that can support that mass murder, and the base tnl is way lower so your base exp potential when multiplied is way lower (caps at 100% from links and exp i believe)

    essentially they smoothed teh curve out, you spend longer time at lower levels, and a little bit less at higher levels(than before 1.19, you of course still burn through level 1-15 pretty fast, and it will take you longer to get 40-41 than 30-31), which all in all i think makes more sense from a game design standpoint.

    while i enjoyed aspects of the old system, i think the exp chain and link style is more gratifying overall, and makes better use of the game design from battle. One target fighting made very little sense with most jobs skill sets.

    pling and overall level speed is a different issue, and your progression right now is tied more to your materia hunting/creating. They simply cant make a game that caters in amount of grind to the top 5% of people who play. I can see wanting advancement and content at high levels, but if they based the amount of time required to reach level 50 on your personal preferences, not many people would be satisfied.

    get materia x5, it takes forver. you know how much grinding you have to do to get a good teir IV for your class? then how many you need to blow up? and its actually worth it stat wise? thats your progress after cap right there.
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