Powerleveling Revisited

[Zenaku]

To Dev

Ignore current levelling system, its fine. Make content please.

There 250 people working on FFXIV and you think fixing the level up issue would mess with the content part? You sure love to troll.

[PrettyPrincess]

There 250 people working on FFXIV and you think fixing the level up issue would mess with the content part? You sure love to troll.

Why fix something that doesn't need fixing?

[Yowyow]

heres my 3 pennies and a nickle... Plevel only exists b/c of 2 things, ignorance and bad coding. this is that whole wow mentality being transfered over subliminally through the internet into every MMO out there. 12 million idiots play wow and as a result, blizzard has made every other mmo have to cater that "i want my crap now or i quit!" mentality. so dont just blame 1 or 2 players and dont blame SE. you need to blame american society and blizzard and SE. actually come to think of it.. mostly just american society

[Murugan]

heres my 3 pennies and a nickle... Plevel only exists b/c of 2 things, ignorance and bad coding. this is that whole wow mentality being transfered over subliminally through the internet into every MMO out there. 12 million idiots play wow and as a result, blizzard has made every other mmo have to cater that "i want my crap now or i quit!" mentality. so dont just blame 1 or 2 players and dont blame SE. you need to blame american society and blizzard and SE. actually come to think of it.. mostly just american society

Sorry buddy but Power leveling predates WoW quite a bit. Do people even power level in WoW? I thought they just did mindless quests for 30,000 XP each or something ridiculous and leveled to 80 (or whatever the cap is) solo in a matter of days.

You know what games people power leveled in? Everquest, FFXI, DAoC, and Ultima. If your experience with MMO's began with WoW that's fine, but this has nothing to do with Blizzard. This has to do some people being willing to help out others to take a short cut through the grind. Get off your high horse, and just avoid it if you don't want to take part in it (because it offends your high morals).

You shouldn't be so quick to generalize people, I would bet many people being power leveled have more experience in less casual MMO's than you do. They are just doing it to get through a tough patch of levels where they have had a difficult time getting good groups, or to get a skill they need quickly on a class they don't plan to play as their main anyways. I'm sorry I see nothing wrong with this, if they are bad players as a result what is the difference than if they soloed or did guildleves and were bad players as a result of that.

[Fieros]

They are just doing it...to get a skill they need quickly on a class they don't plan to play as their main anyways. I'm sorry I see nothing wrong with this

So instead of fixing this issue of forcing players to level classes they have no interest in just for a skill to make thier main viable, support powerleveling to encourage this system?

[DNO]

So instead of fixing this issue of forcing players to level classes they have no interest in just for a skill to make thier main viable, support powerleveling to encourage this system?

Yes.

Options does not mean support. It means options. If you do not want to get PL but the rest of the party does its your option to leave or stay. Dont complain just leave. There are 8 people in that party and most of them want a PL and if you dont you deal with getting fast xp or you leave.

[Radiator]

Thought you did a nice job of stating your opinion. I personally like the way things are but can also understand your frustration. I'm guessing the masses also are fine with the current set-up. As party leader you could alweys tell people your guidelines up front, that might help.

I think the lack of lower level gear in wards is due in part to two additonal things:

1. Most people dont buy it because its not great for turning into Materia - maybe they could give a small chance for tier IV materia from 30s gear? This would increase demand.
2. Most people don't craft it. A crafter can't make very much gil on low level equipment. Also the majority of crafters are either high level (at this point), NPCing, or have friends that can make. I think once more people are playing this would not be an issue.

[Physic]

Thought you did a nice job of stating your opinion. I personally like the way things are but can also understand your frustration. I'm guessing the masses also are fine with the current set-up. As party leader you could alweys tell people your guidelines up front, that might help.

I think the lack of lower level gear in wards is due in part to two additonal things:

1. Most people dont buy it because its not great for turning into Materia - maybe they could give a small chance for tier IV materia from 30s gear? This would increase demand.
2. Most people don't craft it. A crafter can't make very much gil on low level equipment. Also the majority of crafters are either high level (at this point), NPCing, or have friends that can make. I think once more people are playing this would not be an issue.

add to this a high level crafter gets almost nothing for doing this, no exp, has to use mats he probably no longer wants to carry around (lower teir mats) the only real solution is more crafters.

[PrettyPrincess]

Most people don't craft it. A crafter can't make very much gil on low level equipment. Also the majority of crafters are either high level (at this point), NPCing, or have friends that can make. I think once more people are playing this would not be an issue.

on my server they are crafted...then think they can charge something like 32k for a bronze pickaxe. There is a lot of low level gear in the wards that are selling for insane prices. Of course the npc vendors are obviously cheaper.

[Geesus]

II.[/b]Something else that happened today? I looked in the Ul'Dah wards for some midrank THM hand equipment. All I was able to find was a pair of gloves for 100,000-230,000 gil. There wasn't anything for lower ranks, just that one pair of overpriced gloves. I was currently wearing nothing, so I would have settled for a cheaper pair at a lower level.

But what is the point of selling low rank gear? Oh, it dawned on me. This is another effect. Sure, this is only one example and it may have been a coincidence, but it sure does add to my frustration.

Again, I understand that players want the choice to powerlevel. I want to make it clear that I'm not 100% against the subject. The way it worked in XI was fair and reasonable, it was always nice to have a friend helping by healing from the outside. But do we really need a situation where seven people go AFK while one pulls multiple mobs, links and chains gained from 1-3 outside rank 50s?

There is a solution to this issue, learn to craft your own gear. I have had to do this eventhough there are plenty of 40+ crafters and DoHs in my LS. For my R50 Con they help out and I supply/buy mats. I just don't like asking people to do it for me but that's just me. As for all my other jobs, including my crafting jobs, I have made my own gear. I then look on the wards to see what IS missing for lower level and new players and craft gear FOR them. I usually will price it below the Vendor prices or at least w/e is being sold on the wards by other ridiculous asshats and how they are pricing their gear. There's a difference between making gil and just being an ass.

As for your PL debacle; I can agree but also disagree. There are certain jobs I dislike such as Gladiator. I recently was PL'd to 36 in order to get Sentinal for the 45+ Ifrit battle. That's the ONLY reason it was done for myself and other's on our LS. Some people choose to take the 'easy' route some do not. I have a player in our LS who was QQing about not being able to PL anymore and bitching in LS chat in front of new recruits. I promptly put an end to THAT non-sense by vigorously explaining how that attitude was wrong and that is why they currently CAN'T play their own R50 job.

To each his/her own when it comes to PLing but it is what it is.