Powerleveling Revisited

[Xoo]

I don't see the pride in taking 2 hours of killing mobs to get from 25 to 26, to be honest it seems rather stupid to be proud of that. Another thing is you don't learn to play your jobs by soloing or partying, you can't just go and do raids cause you manually leveled to 50 with no higher level assistance, you still have to learn the ins and outs of whatever raid you are doing. I do agree it is kinda lame to just go from 1-50 in three days but hey, better to have that job at 50 then to not have it.

Overall I just don't understand the mindset of "power level is evil", all I see is a shortcut to the fun stuff.

I just hope they have all that endgame content they're gonna have to come up with real quicklike to support all this mass of max-level mayhem. There is a downside to everything, and unfortunately some of you can't see just how many this situation brings with it.

EDIT: You have an amazing cat there, Treach!

[Etienn]

I don't see the pride in taking 2 hours of killing mobs to get from 25 to 26, to be honest it seems rather stupid to be proud of that. Another thing is you don't learn to play your jobs by soloing or partying, you can't just go and do raids cause you manually leveled to 50 with no higher level assistance, you still have to learn the ins and outs of whatever raid you are doing. I do agree it is kinda lame to just go from 1-50 in three days but hey, better to have that job at 50 then to not have it.

Overall I just don't understand the mindset of "power level is evil", all I see is a shortcut to the fun stuff.

This^, but like I said on page two i'd not power level a n00b off the bat, i'd wait till he/she got used to the game, with it's mechanics.

[Leo_Hart]

I agree the PL but i just cant agree ppl AFK can get MASSIVE XP. Grind process should be fast to be reach to do end game content. As been said, just 3 days grinding to get L50, why not just doing it urself? PL is a plus but you need not ASK for it, you need not WAIT for it. Honestly, don't tell me you don't have the 3 days times to plays a MMO.

[Aleczan]

Back in FFXI, Powerleveling means a person would follow you around and cast buff+cure on you to keep you alive, so you can pick on stronger enemies. But in FFXIV, powerleveling is taken up to another level LOL. I have mixed feelings about PL in FFXIV.

I can't judge either Powerleveling is good or bad, but honestly getting PL'ed is less enjoyable for me in term of gameplay. It's boring to just stand there leeching EXP from monsters 10 or more levels above me. What? I have to hide in a safe place? I can't even run in to whack the enemy? Why? Oh yeah because I would either do 10 dmg, feeding unnecessary TP to the mob, or get my ass kicked from AoE. That is no fun.

I would rather duo, or make a proper 4-5 persons party and go kill mobs of 6-7 levels above up to keep the EXP grinding fun and let me have chance and time to practice my playing skill. With EXP chain and linking mobs EXP bonus implemented, it is easier to keep rolling in good EXP than ever. Sometimes we don't even have downtime.

I don't blame people if they prefer getting PL'ed, either. Hell, I have been PL'ed myself when I tried to level up my mages. I am a melee type of player. Playing mages bores me to hell. But I want the skills/abilities. I didn't specifically look for PL party, but just tag along with my LS friends when they go to EXP camp or LQ tour. That got my levels up faster than I would have done it myself (partly because I don't seek party, I prefer solo/duo/trio with BF and close friends).

Do I like the freebies EXP and the shortcut? Yeah! Did I learn to play my mage classes? No! I feel incompetent because it's like I suddenly jumped into the healer role at level 30 without having enough practice in the lowbies. I even let my party (consisted of me, a friend, my bro, and bro's GF) wipe because I didn't know how to react when shit hits the fan. Good thing they were forgiving and were willing to spend anima teleporting back to the camp again to try for more. Can't imagine if it were a party full of strangers. LOL.

Experiencing this makes me regret taking the shortcut. For it takes more time and effort, for me at least, to adjust to suddenly play a healer at 30 than to adjust early since below 10. It's like I skipped the toddler stage and tried to run right away. Falling down is guaranteed. I am now THM 44, through duo and LQ spamming. I just feel like I'm becoming a real THM now.

Nevertheless, I am still damn happy that I skipped level 25-30. That range of level is just shitty. I couldn't find decent camp to EXP grind. Mobs camps I found were either too low or too high. I remember my ARC and LNC being stuck there like forever and had to depend solely on LQ+GA. It was seriously the shittiest and slowest range of levels for me.

But, if the class is what I love with a passion, then PL is evil. I want to play my class and enjoy it. I can't imagine how pissed off I would be if I were to miss out on the fun of leveling up my PGL on my own or with my skills.

I understand how the OP felt. And hey, I don't think you did anything wrong. You just happened to be with the wrong people. It's not your fault they prefer the easy way. Sorry you got kicked off some of the parties though. I personally think it's rude to suddenly bring a PL into a normal party. If you wanted to be PL, dude, why haven't you just gone and joined with your PL friend since the beginning? Why did you have to join me and ruin my party? How disrespectful.

[Murugan]

I have a hard time believing that the OP is on Selbina and every group he has formed or joined ends up being power leveled. I've power leveled people before on occasion, there is nothing wrong with it. If people choose to play that way and help others do something faster or more easily that is their choice, there is nothing sinister about it.

Now if this had a real impact on the number of legitimate groups I'd say you had a point. I love grouping and if everyone just stopped grouping because they would rather get power leveled I'd be disappointed. That isn't happening though. It seems you are just an anti-powerleveling zealot who demanded that everyone in your group conform to your strict standards of fair leveling.

No one forces you to power level, and you can certainly find enough other people looking for regular groups too. I'm on Selbina I know this is true.

[Zenaku]

I have a hard time believing that the OP is on Selbina and every group he has formed or joined ends up being power leveled. I've power leveled people before on occasion, there is nothing wrong with it. If people choose to play that way and help others do something faster or more easily that is their choice, there is nothing sinister about it.

Now if this had a real impact on the number of legitimate groups I'd say you had a point. I love grouping and if everyone just stopped grouping because they would rather get power leveled I'd be disappointed. That isn't happening though. It seems you are just an anti-powerleveling zealot who demanded that everyone in your group conform to your strict standards of fair leveling.

No one forces you to power level, and you can certainly find enough other people looking for regular groups too. I'm on Selbina I know this is true.

I'm from selbina and most party we make end up wanting a powerlevel and they get one even if i'm the leader they just disband and go with the Powerlevel. Just because it does not happen to you everyday does not mean it don't happen to the rest of us it becoming a big issue and powerlevel should never be allow that a person kill the mob for you.

FFXI version of powerlevel i agree with.

[Aleczan]

No one forces you to power level, and you can certainly find enough other people looking for regular groups too. I'm on Selbina I know this is true.

The point being in the OP is that people joined for normal EXP party, and then suddenly decided to bring in a PL, resulting in the breaking of the party. That's just plain rude, in my opinion. What a party-pooper! If they have no desire to EXP the normal way, then don't join EXP party. Please just go ahead and level up with the PL, don't join other people's party and then wreck it.

[Murugan]

The point being in the OP is that people joined for normal EXP party, and then suddenly decided to bring in a PL, resulting in the breaking of the party. That's just plain rude, in my opinion. What a party-pooper! If they have no desire to EXP the normal way, then don't join EXP party. Please just go ahead and level up with the PL, don't join other people's party and then wreck it.

So if someone is willing to be power leveled they should not be allowed to EXP in a normal party also?

Do you hear yourself? You honestly think that is a reasonable stance to take and not just you overreacting to the fact that some people occasionally power level.

[Zenaku]

So if someone is willing to be power leveled they should not be allowed to EXP in a normal party also?

Do you hear yourself? You honestly think that is a reasonable stance to take and not just you overreacting to the fact that some people occasionally power level.

You make a party your the leader 6-5 people are pick up 1-2 people say i have a powerlevel you say no thanks my party no powerlevel. The party break up by half or everyone leave to get powerlevel. You left to go back to town to find more people which may do the same thing again.

So are you listening to yourself or you don't understand the issue we talking about here?

[Zezlar]

Fully agree. I am starting to leave parties that have Pls. I don't mind the XI form of PLs where someone stands outside and heals, but I absolutely refuse to stand there and do nothing. I play FFXIV for enjoyment (Yes, it can actually be pretty fun) but I can't enjoy the game sitting on the sidelines getting free exp. A lot of people say it's a ticket into the "fun part."

Well I want to earn that ticket. I don't want it to be handed to me.

Though after 1.19a PLing isn't so bad anymore. It still does exist but I will still avoid it.