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  1. #31
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    If the encounter is an easy one with a large amount of movement required I will keep it off until there are large enough periods to be sure having it on wont become annoying to me. In those fights if someone whines about my not performing to the best of my ability, stressing myself out on what is essentially easy/casual content just because they want to shave thirty seconds, a minute, five minutes or ten minutes off the clear time then they can get stuffed. I am there for the clear and not for a speed run just because they lack patience and as long as it is not top tier content with extreme difficulty then I will go at an adequate speed but not stress myself out working my ass off just to shave a few minutes off the run.

    If the fight is more difficult though it becomes more important to have it on as much as possible, more effort is required and so I do personally make sure to put forth such effort. I'm fine with WM on BRD, I prefer GB on MCH though (I only play BRD, MCH and MNK for DoW/DoM). My only complaint about MCH is mostly the annoying procs on main combo (slug, split and clean) instead of it being more stable and more reliable like MNK main combo, reload should be 'special ammo' and buff/debuff related like a manually turned on GL3 with GCD rather than proc related for example in my opinion. SE could adjust the potency's if such a change to the MCH main combo made it OP and I would be okay with them doing so as I would rather have more stability than being overly powerful.

    On a side note I don't play BLM but I imagine enochian is similar to MCH wildfire burst which includes GB, in that with it you want to remain stationary as possible in order to push through as much of the skill rotation as can before wildfire ends. On BRD I don't feel like the same is required because their burst rotation is not such a big aspect of the class compared to wildfire and enochian, one of BRD's big aspects instead is the larger amount of DoT's rather than burst alone though they do have decent burst it doesn't feel the same as MCH or what I think BLM is like. I 'feel' like I still have more movement freedom on BRD even with WM than on my MCH in general but not by a huge amount, I imagine BLM is on par with MCH but much slightly worse than BRD movement wise if I was to guess.
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  2. #32
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    Sly Hawkeye
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    Famfrit
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    Bard Lv 60
    You don't really need to activate your Wanderers minuet before lvl 56, you can use it for your opener, barrage empyreal arrow is pretty damn strong but it's both Iron Jaw and Empyreal Arrow that will make it that you just can't have it turned off.
    But in the end, lvl 50-56 the DPS difference will not be too important, so like said previously you can start using it at lvl 54 (it's useless to use it before lvl 54) to start training to add empyreal arrow to your rotation.
    Also if you're planning on mastering your bard you will need to level up your Dragoon to level 34, this way you will have Feint and Blood for Blood, both of these skills are a must for bards. Feint will give you the ability to keep doing some damage even while moving and casting GCD's. Blood for blood on the other hand will give you a 10% damage buff. (I don't really recommend it for PvP though as you will be taking 25% more damage.)
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  3. #33
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    Mephistobr's Avatar
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    Mephisto Pyres
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 61
    Just a quick rant, I got to lvl 53 yesterday and just discovered Wanderer's Minuet, and now I feel like I've wasted 1 month of my life playing this game.
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  4. #34
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mephistobr View Post
    Just a quick rant, I got to lvl 53 yesterday and just discovered Wanderer's Minuet, and now I feel like I've wasted 1 month of my life playing this game.
    You're in luck. There is no reason to use it until 54 (Empyreal) outside of AoE spams.

    It then remains marginal at best until getting Iron Jaws.
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  5. #35
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    Mephisto Pyres
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 61
    Still it's really sad, I even played a lot the free trial and decided to buy it because the archer class was everything I was looking for on an MMO and now I'm a caster, don't even feel like logging in right now. To make things worse I just bought the expansion 2 days ago on Steam and can't even refund.
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  6. #36
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mephistobr View Post
    Still it's really sad, I even played a lot the free trial and decided to buy it because the archer class was everything I was looking for on an MMO and now I'm a caster, don't even feel like logging in right now. To make things worse I just bought the expansion 2 days ago on Steam and can't even refund.
    Don't really know what to tell you...sorry you feel that way.
    You can still run and shoot if you really feel the need, you just have to learn to stutter step. Also, some other stuff I already mentioned in this thread.
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  7. #37
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mephistobr View Post
    Still it's really sad, I even played a lot the free trial and decided to buy it because the archer class was everything I was looking for on an MMO and now I'm a caster, don't even feel like logging in right now. To make things worse I just bought the expansion 2 days ago on Steam and can't even refund.
    Lotta people felt and still feel (with ya brudda) that way. WHOO! It sucks, but you missed the worst of it. They've ironed it out pretty good but it can still be a janky mess. In the end you either learn to tolerate it or move on. I for one ended up learning MNK out of the fiasco. I like it, you get some nice movement and flow that pre-3.0 BRD had, sucks you gotta be melee, but whatevs. Still play BRD mostly because I worked my ass pimping it out in the past, and in the end its still a good dps with a solid enough kit. Keep at it for a bit and maybe you'll grow into it. If not, I'm tellin ya MNK is the way to go. It's good stuff, and not a DRG. :V
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  8. #38
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    Nexas Uthenera
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Tango185 View Post
    That's actually pretty brilliant. I'm stealing this. Thanks!
    Thank you for your kind words.
    And I'm glad I you like it ☺
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