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    [Suggestion] Selene's Silent Dusk in 4.0

    Alrighty, so Selene right now is our more offensive fairy. She got wonderfully buffed in 3.0 by combining the Skill Speed/Spell Speed buffs into Fey Wind, causing a flat 3% increase in speed (Does not affect DoTs buffs because of this.) Fey Caress was also added and when its useful, its super useful. She does have one skill, that's just not as universal as it used to be. Silent Dusk. Although, it is a Scholar's only interupt skill, its so gimmicky to use and 99% of the time ineffective, its not worth it anymore.

    OK NEW IDEA (pls no hate me bard)

    Although I do love when her silence works, it's used so little and she is fairly inconsistent at using it at the right time, that it does "need" replaced (in proportion to other changes to the other classes in 4.0.)

    What if instead, it was a 7-10 second magic vulnerability down, similar to a magical vulnerability only sneak attack.

    Fey-Disaster (like Tri-Disaster)

    Ability
    Magic Vulnerability Down
    Duration:8 Seconds
    Cool Down: 80 seconds

    It makes selene more offensively supportive and synergies really well with the SCH/SMNs for bane on aoe pulls, while keeping her fairy hands clean.


    Old idea:
    I was thinking since SE has given Scholar self-depreciating, but very tactical skills like emergency tactics (costing a shield for a bigger heal) and Dissipation (Costing your fairy for 30 seconds and its resummon for larger heals and an full stack of aetherflow.) Why not pass on these options to Selene? She's already a bit of a weirdo with silence anyways, plus she works very well with Warriors by Fey caressing pacification off Beserk, who as marauders in lore, were very close to Scholars.

    Fey Explosion

    Selene gathers her inner light and releases it.

    Cool Down: 15 seconds
    (Summon II on Arcanist also had an AOE similar, without the negative effects, Called Shining Topaz)
    Cast Time: 2 seconds
    (Same as Whispering dawn)
    Damage: 70 Potency, based on MIND
    Additional Effect: At the end of the cast, Selene suffers from Silence for 5 seconds and will be unable to cast spells.
    (No Embracing)

    This would essentially cut Selene's healing in half, since she would be casting the spell for a 7 second investment every 15 seconds. Scholars get to make choices, instead of just spamming embrace. Do I want more DPS or Do I want more single target healing? Silent dusk isn't used much anyways, so the new addition might not even affect many scholars.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 06-10-2016 at 01:40 AM.

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    Personally I only use Selene in trials when there's another healer, all I kinda want is a fairy that can dps, that would actually make a dairy useful for those sch who just heal and beat eos to the healing punch -.-
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    In most content all you need is Selene. I kinda want to setup a spectrum where:
    Eos: Survival progression (least dps)
    Selene (no fey explosion): Single target healing needed significantly, but comfortable. (Current dps)
    Selene (using aoe): Single target healing not absolutely needed. (Most possible dps)
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    Personally I only use Selene in trials when there's another healer, all I kinda want is a fairy that can dps, that would actually make a dairy useful for those sch who just heal and beat eos to the healing punch -.-
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    sorry about the double post, I'm using my iPhone and it doesn't show my last post so I thought it didn't post or something
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    If Selene gets a regen ability I would use her more but Eos's regen gives me more of a assurance that I will have more time to do some dps and will actually gives me more of a reprival when I go into to dps tunnel mode
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powe View Post
    If Selene gets a regen ability I would use her more but Eos's regen gives me more of a assurance that I will have more time to do some dps and will actually gives me more of a reprival when I go into to dps tunnel mode
    The point of Selene is dps focus. Eos is your go to for saturated healing. Eos will help you push out and extra 1% where Selene can approach 3% in dps boosting party wide.
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    IMO this patch makes me always use Eos than Selene. I don't know, using Eos makes me dps more better because of regen and better healing stuff and Selene's Fey Winds only cuts 0.06 second cast speed so I find it useless (Except Fey Caress for A7?).
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    You do get to dps more, that's very true, but when you use eos in hopes for a dps increase over Selene, you are betting that within those extra couple gcds that you don't have to heal a minute (assuming that you don't over heal at all), that you can beat all 8 party members (including yourself) at an extra gcd every 2.5 minutes.
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    Lol updated this, because *drool...*


    What if instead, it was a 7-10 second magic vulnerability down, similar to a magical vulnerability only sneak attack.

    Fey-Disaster (like Tri-Disaster)

    Ability
    Magic Vulnerability Down
    Duration:8 Seconds
    Cool Down: 80 seconds

    It makes selene more offensively supportive and synergies really well with the SCH/SMNs for bane on aoe pulls, while keeping her fairy hands free.
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