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    STOP SELLING G9 COVERING AND LET PEOPLE RESET FEEDS.

    I messed up my 19/20 star G9 chocobo because I thought there is a G10. It was only till after feeding grade 1 feed to it, I started to realize their might not be a G10 because at G9 my stats were out of 500. GM could not do anything to help me but hugest I write on the forum for suggestion.
    My suggestion: STOP CONFUSING THE HELL OUT OF PLAYERS BY SELLING G9 COVERINGS WHEN G10 CHOCOBOS DON'T EXIST!!!!!
    For people that don't know, the new chocobo is one level higher than the coverings.
    Suggestion two: Let people reset their feeds.
    I now have to get my chocobo to 40 when I would not have needed to, retire it and breed it x amount of times and spend more MGP. thanks.....
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    i can agree a stat-reset would be nice.

    but the other stuff... x)

    but if you have a 19 star grade 9 chocobo you should probably bring him to lvl 50 to get the achievement for the 285 rating before you retire him
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    With all due respect, didn't you just assume on your own that the max rank was 10? I can understand you somehow missing the hint that 9 was the max rank but even then, you honestly should have researched what was the max rank by the time you hit G9 at the latest. I've never heard of anyone else being confused by this, personally. G9 Coverings have a very legitimate purpose, there's no reason why they should not be sold.
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    What do G9 coverings do that G8 at a cheaper cost doesn't? I didn't assume on my own, I thought it was very logical that with G9 coverings the fledgling would be G10. Why would I research it after that point? When I got the achievement it said I got it for getting a G9 or higher Chocobo, even the achievement suggested there was higher.
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    Last edited by Venom; 05-29-2016 at 02:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venom View Post
    What do G9 coverings do that G8 at a cheaper cost doesn't?
    Can't you go down a chocobo Grade if you use a covering lower than the chocobo's grade? Example, if you use a G8 cover on a G9 choco, isn't there a chance you can get a G8 choco? So theoretically, you need G9 covers to keep breeding G9's right?
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    First, stop raging about a mistake you made and trying to blame it on the game.
    Second, think about what you said.

    Your suggestion to remove G9 chocobo covering forms is downright dumb. You say you didn't know chocobos couldn't get to G10 because the vendor only sells up to G9, so you want them to remove G9 so people (you) will know it maxes at G9. So pretend they did remove G9. You get your chocobo to G8, breed it with a G8 covering form and it produces a G9 chocobo. What's stopping you from breeding another G9, retiring them both and breeding them with each other to see if it produces a G10? It's your same problem all over again.

    You obviously have access to the internet, so why did you not look up what the max pedigree was instead of breeding blindly and getting mad at your incorrect assumption? Instead of being cautious and spending 2 minutes figuring that out beforehand, you're now paying the price by spending hours getting back to where you were.

    The achievement you got said grade 9 or higher because that's Square Enix's way of preparing for the future. It may never go higher than 9, but if it does they don't have to update any old text.

    The number of stars each parent has on a covering permission form is determined by the grade of the form and RNG. A higher grade covering form will have a higher chance to have more stars than those of lower grade forms.

    Racing chocobo stat resets may never be a thing because of the way points are distributed when your chocobo levels up. By maxing an attribute early, you can force the game to allocate stats to other attributes. If you were to reset the stats, which would be reset? The base stats, stats gained from food, stats randomly allocated when your chocobo leveled up, or a mixture of the three? Personally, this feature would greatly screw up your chances of breeding an ultimate chocobo.

    Qualification to voice my opinions on your suggestions:
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    Last edited by SirBrighton; 05-29-2016 at 03:55 PM. Reason: post was too long

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    It's really funny how many people post here but don't know how breeding works. G8 + G8 = G9, G8 + G9 = G9, G9 + G9 = G9. All result in G9. The cost, G8 2,650. G9 2950.
    YET THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT. PLAYERS WILL ASSUME THEY SERVE A PURPOSE AND G10 EXISTS WHEN THERE IS NO SUCH PEDIGREE. YOU DON'T NEED G9 TO BREED G9.

    G1 covering breeds G2 fledgling
    G2 covering breeds G3 fledgling
    G3 covering breeds G4 fledgling
    G4 covering breeds G5 fledgling
    G5 covering breeds G6 fledgling
    G6 covering breeds G7 fledgling
    G7 covering breeds G8 fledgling
    G8 covering breeds G9 fledgling <--SAME
    G9 covering breeds G9 fledgling <--SAME

    G8 covering COST: 2650mgp
    G9 covering COST: 2950mgp

    It is upto SE to make it logical and clear. This is a game not research.
    Achievement: Obtain a new chocobo with a pedigree level of 9 or higher. <--- why research why it says there is higher.
    It would make more sense to just say, Achievement: Obtain a new chocobo with a pedigree level of 9 and if the max rank changes, add a new achievement.
    or higher in the achievement discription is unnecessary here. G9 coverings are unnecessary here.
    I'd hope a mod will respond, starting to get fed up of players responding when they don't understand the problem.
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    Last edited by Venom; 05-29-2016 at 08:45 PM.

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    I assumed there was higher too. Like you said, the achievement text strongly suggests there is.

    I never tried to go higher though. People say it's fast to grind now, but when I did it before nerfs it was a monster grind and the items/feed used to cost a lot, so I only went as far as I needed.

    Silver lining: grind isn't so bad now and you can earn MGP fast especially during the current event. But yeah, system could be more clear.
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    okay...

    they can't remove the G9 coverings because we actaully need them for breeding. back then when you retired your first chocobo the tutorial text has explained that...

    it is more likely that the the child will get the stats of the parent with the lower pedigree. so if you breed a G9 together with a G8 it is more likely to get the stats from the G8 for the child. so, if you have a G9 chocobo with good, but not perfect stats, and want to further increase them, you need a G9 covering because G9 + G9 are equal. if you use a G8 you have a high chance to lose the stats from your good G9 chocobo.
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    Last edited by Tint; 05-29-2016 at 10:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    okay...

    they can't remove the G9 coverings because we actaully need them for breeding. back then when you retired your first chocobo the tutorial text has explained that...

    it is more likely that the the child will get the stats of the parent with the lower pedigree. so if you breed a G9 together with a G8 it is more likely to get the stats from the G8 for the child. so, if you have a G9 chocobo with good, but not perfect stats, and want to further increase them, you need a G9 covering because G9 + G9 are equal. if you use a G8 you have a high chance to lose the stats from your good G9 chocobo.
    got a source for the fact that stats from G8 are more likely to transfer than the G9 parent? sounds made up to me. I never seen such information.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...d_a_bit_about/

    Takeaway from this is, don't buy a covering permission of a grade that's higher than your current chocobo! It's a waste of MGP.

    Chocobos inherit stars from their parents in a strange way. The short version is that they actually inherit random star ratings from their grandparents, not their parents, with each grandparent star rating being equally likely.
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    Last edited by Venom; 05-29-2016 at 11:04 PM.

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