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    SoloNightlock's Avatar
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    Axle Ignite
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    Wow typos! Curse u android.
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    Arle Oven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    If you add the tokens to the drops? Yes. Because the guy who only had to run it once cannot be statistically compensated by the poor sod that never even saw the thing after 1000 runs (Both being statistical outliers, of course).
    If you have the tokens substitute the drop? All that changes is that everyone needs to run it equally often, the average remains the same. Yay same effort for same reward!

    And for items like these, you can even go super fancy and hide the tokens, substituting them with a hidden counter in the background that will force drop the item after X amount of runs - but only for you. That way, you even get the satisfaction of getting the item directly, instead of from the vendor.
    Basically advocating for instant gratification in an mmo. I think I have literally seen it all.

    I can foresee someone bringing up the thick counter saying 100 is not instant. I suppose modern mmos have bred people to expect rather than to earn.
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovenmitts View Post
    Basically advocating for instant gratification in an mmo.
    Funny that you say that, because RNG, not token/counter systems allow you to get an item "instantly" if you're lucky, whereas in counter systems, you always have to put in a set amount of effort for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Funny that you say that, because RNG, not token/counter systems allow you to get an item "instantly" if you're lucky, whereas in counter systems, you always have to put in a set amount of effort for them.
    Hence why I said rare item in my first post. In a 1/100 chance, you can obviously get lucky statistically to get it on the first try. Rare does not mean fair. It means you have a chance just like everyone else.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Its not an unreasonable request, and most people will just wait until the drop rate is increased.
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    Arawn Wymer
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    I'm not doing this to make people mad at me but short story. I didn't even have the chance to roll on the mount before people left and this happened:





    I guess rolling 0 or well not even being avaible to roll before people leaves gets you a Bismarck mount.

    Ah yes yes, it was barely I got it too. Since that staff put me to item 99/100 and mount barely got into my inventory XD.
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