Haurchefant's Mother

[Rosenoire]

I vaguely recall a bit where he mentions that his mother was devout and physically frail, but I can't find the exact quote anywhere. Is it actually in the EN localization? Did I dream it?

[FJerome]

I vaguely recall a bit where he mentions that his mother was devout and physically frail, but I can't find the exact quote anywhere. Is it actually in the EN localization? Did I dream it?

It wasn't in any cut-scene - Haurchefant has a lot of changing dialogue if you hike back to visit him at Dragonhead between quests, it was one of those.

[Anonymoose]

It this it?

...My dear mother was a woman both beautiful and righteous, yet terribly, terribly frail. Thus, have I ever been fascinated by those blessed with physical fortitude and spiritual conviction in equal measure.

[Rosenoire]

Yes! That's it. Do you happen to know what that's in response to?

(Also, he's a sweetheart, but his mother couldn't have been all that righteous...)

[Anonymoose]

I think the context is actually meant to be less about his mother per se and more an explanation for why he's so much of a creeper. You're about to head out on a dangerous task and he's saying that he's not worried for you, because of course you will be victorious, and that he's excited to see how the victory will improve your heroic qualities (read: and your wonderful bod).

[Rosenoire]

I would imagine that would come across as even creepier if you're a Lalafell.

[Airias]

Since we're on the topic of bastard's mothers, does anyone recall anything specific about Aymeric's mother?

[Rosenoire]

I don't think we've been told anything. I'm very curious, not least because I'm having a hard time imagining Thordan as having any qualities that would make a woman want to have his child.

[Airias]

2/2

In the german localization, Aymeric says he's from low nobility and Lucia said he's the child of the Archbishop and his mistress, but there is nothing like that mentioned in the english version, so I'm not sure how much is lost or added in translation or if that's euphemized. Still, this reduces the possibilites and explains why everyone in Ishgard seems to be so sure about the connection - mistresses were hardly ever kept a secret in history, not even pope's mistresses.

The woman might have been married off to a low nobleman as soon as she became pregnant so the child would be taken care of. Makes me wonder if Aymeric had a stepfather and how that relationship went, or that with his mother. He must have his strong sense of justice from somewhere.

[Rosenoire]

That makes sense, more so than the English localization, which suggests that he's lowborn. I would think that his mother would have been at least minor nobility, someone who couldn't simply be disappeared if she turned up inconveniently pregnant. Someone had to have been responsible to Aymeric's education and training, which also suggests that there was a degree of nobility or at least money involved.