The Golden Saucer - Can it ever be relevant and fun?

[Warlyx]

I think a big problem is that they put a grind into everything, even fluff content. Grinding has it's place of course, but only in serious content. Fluff content should just be fun, stuff you play on the side between dungeons or when you're bored.

Stuff you do when you want a break from the grind.

QFT , i was expecting this from Gold saucer...and to be fair it was kinda fun for some days , the GATEs , the chocobo racing (ok that lasted 1 day ) , not a fan of TT .... and the minigames are meh...click click click ....

jackpot and minijackpot are of course all about luck.... i wanted to get fenrir ....and be in GS until the end of another era....and haven touched it since .....2.0

[Snugglebutt]

I think a big problem is that they put a grind into everything, even fluff content. Grinding has it's place of course, but only in serious content. Fluff content should just be fun, stuff you play on the side between dungeons or when you're bored.

Stuff you do when you want a break from the grind.

The thing is though for most of the mini games (gates, cactpots and such), the only grind is for MGP (outside of achievements). Triad for example the only grind is either for more cards, for achievements or for MGP but would removing the grind for those make the game more fun? I don't think so as the game itself would still be the same game that on a basic level I still either like playing triad as a game or not. They could let you win cards easier which by proxy might make me enjoy the 'grind' more but it wont make me enjoy playing the 'mini game' itself more...it will decrease the reason to keep playing after it has already become boring to me though. Chocobo racing, if removed the ability to rank up and level the chocobo which is the grind alongside again winning MGP...would it be more fun without those elements? I don't think so.

To me the grind only becomes an issue when the mini game already has become tedious, the reward becomes the only thing keeping me playing it. That's when the grind takes over as motivation to continue playing it. The grind can often also add to the enjoyment in terms of things like chocobo racing leveling up/breeding your racing chocobo's for the game.

With many of these things the removing of the grind elements themselves would either have no affect on enjoyment or not make it less fun as a mini game itself. It would also cause people to stop playing sooner than without it. On the other hand I will certainly admit the amount of MGP gain from such things and amount of MGP costs for the rewards you want will also have a negative effect on enthusiasm but that to me is a separate issue, more an issue with the MGP than the mini game enjoyment itself. If I enjoy playing chess it wouldn't make me hate it to not win a million pounds playing it but if was a million pounds for winning a match of chess I would enjoy the game itself the same...only would potentially end up richer from it. I am not sure I got across my thoughts on the matter adequately but I hope you understand what I am trying to say.

[Marcellus_Cassius]

The event square should be turned into a PvP ring where 1v1 matches can be spectated on.

[Croweyes]

It'd be fun if there was a PvE arena kind thing. You would fight enemy's that had unique mechanics in order to win rather then just a "dps it down " fight. Maybe also have a gauntlet type fighting option too.
A rough idea, but some action like GS content would be neat.

[Blackcanary]

Just give me the snowboarding game from FF7 and I will be happy.
And also a haunted house or something or a roller coaster lol.

[Khalithar]

Give me snowboarding and G-Bike and I'd be there all day.

[Blackcanary]

Give me snowboarding and G-Bike and I'd be there all day.

Yes G-Bike would be awesome. Could be like a race in one of the towns and u have to kill mobs at the same time. More mobs u kill faster ur bike becomes.

[Khalithar]

Yes G-Bike would be awesome. Could be like a race in one of the towns and u have to kill mobs at the same time. More mobs u kill faster ur bike becomes.

I got really bored while playing through FF7 near the endgame, didn't feel like doing that slog through the crater at the very end so I spent hours in gold saucer just playing g-bike and snowboarding. >_>

[MomomiMomi]

The bike is modeled already...

[Alleo]

Like someone already said they should not have made it such a grind (imo). Yes you only need to farm it for the items but in my opinion these are way to overpriced. Fenrir could have been half the price and it still would have taken people a long time to get there. (At least playing it casual) Wanting another million MGP for a single card is also horrible. And lets not talk about the RNG involved for getting TT cards..I was really excited for this one but the rules of the NPCs and that bad droprate really put me off collecting them further. And lets not forget that more cards and items will be included later so it never ends (which should be a good thing but I already fear the grind for another item I want).

Things like LoV were something I was also really looking forward too but I hoped for something like Pokemon and not for something this complex. Its does not make fun.

So: Less grind, cheaper items and more simple but fun minigames