It may just be me but since when has there been a EX roullete or 4 man dungeon that is so hard u'd run from it? I may hate Arum Vale (under the grounds of it take the mosy "Skill" to beat without wipes, high mob grouping & cripiling boss mechanic's) but will always go till eather the timer runs out or Vote abandon by DPS or Healer (or as other guy said RL stuff). Done almost all 4-mans as all 3 roles (healer still has a few I haved tried synced) & have never ran like a scared child from any of them (won't condem those who don't due certian Primals, EX version's, or Coil/Alex savage outa fear cause that shit be crazy... even I fear it but for the more a fear of failing & letting ppl down due to lack of skill)