What can I do to stop this?

[Brian_]

LOL thanks for that pointless response.

If you go back and read, the OP is frustrated about tanks insta-leaving dungeons while trying to finish his Anima relic. So, please enlighten me as to what is "the most pointless dungeon in the game," is and why your comment has any relevance to said topic.

Probably because he can read? You called me out. The only dungeon I mentioned by name was ARF with no bonus out of 60 roulette.

I find it quite refreshing that rather than butt into the middle of a conversation with a baseless and ignorant remark, at least he bothers to understand what's going on before he opens his mouth. So much for a pointless response.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Probably because he can read? You called me out. The only dungeon I mentioned by name was ARF with no bonus out of 60 roulette.

I find it quite refreshing that rather than butt into the middle of a conversation with a baseless and ignorant remark, at least he bothers to understand what's going on before he opens his mouth. So much for a pointless response.

LOL, ouch you really burned me. I must go sulk in a corner now.

Yeah, so sorry I didn't realize you were still talking about a dungeon you mentioned once 4 pages ago. I also didn't realize that posting on a forum, in a public thread, was considered butting in to a conversation. I'll be sure to take note of that for all of my future posting endeavors.

[Comrade_uri]

I suppose then an easy way to limit it is to either make the penalty time 1hr or remove the daily tome allowance. You leave the dungeon you lose your chance at getting tomes for that day.

[Nyghtmarerobu]

I'm not sure why people don't just get over it. Everyone has reasons for what they do, and who are you, or I to judge? While leaving roullettes can be obnoxious, its not as big of a deal as others are making it. "Oh no I'm inconvenienced!!", "Oh man that guy is a dick for leaving!!", why does it even matter? People are bickering over a small amount of wasted time, just leave the duty when someone else leaves, and re-que, and move on with life. OP asked why people do it, and there are a few different reasons, but much like has been said already, no one here has to explain why they leave or stay in a duty, its no one else's concern but your own, and not your problem to try to police "The Way" -YOU- want people to act. If you don't like it, cool, you voiced your opinion, lets move on with life.

[MahoSenshi]

There are two kinds of people. Ones who try to "git gud"(tm) and the ones who doesn't.
Personally, i never leave b/c "ugh, wrong dj". AV, ACRF, whatever. But sometimes RNG gives you shit teammates, who clearly slacking and want to be carried or just fine with not trying to perform better (yes, ppl can be new and its ok if they're trying). Well, if they don't want to clear dj fast and ok with a "nice and slow run" they can enjoy a nice and slow re-queue.

[winsock]

If you were actually accommodating to people, you would see someone who really doesn't want to run a specific dungeon and let them be.

You still seem confused. How am I not accommodating the leaver? I don't talk to them after they leave and can't prevent them from leaving. I even leave dungeons if I need to... to change classes and queue for the specific in progress to help the group the leaver abandoned in their selfishness

You are the only unaccommodating person in the DF scenario.

Further, your argument is has cyclical reasoning.
According to your logic, the rest of the group doesn't accommodate the leaver and that means that no one is accommodating. (Which isn't true as the rest of the party has no choice as to whether a leaver leaves)
However, if you chose not to leave, then everyone would be accommodating. In other words, you are the problem.

If you really believe your own logic and have a problem with ppl's supposed hypocrisy, just accommodate the group and suddenly these people are no longer hypocrites.

[Brian_]

If you really believe your own logic and have a problem with ppl's supposed hypocrisy, just accommodate the group and suddenly these people are no longer hypocrites.

Or you could just get off your high horse and stop telling other people how to play the game and use their time. That would also stop the cycle. And, that's also what I've been saying this entire time.

[Jpec07]

Or you could just get off your high horse and stop telling other people how to play the game and use their time. That would also stop the cycle. And, that's also what I've been saying this entire time.

There is a super huge, very large difference between discussing ideal player behavior (what we're doing) and telling people what to do (what you seem to think we're doing--the strawman). We may abhor the sort of egocentric, don't-give-a-rat's-arse-about-anyone-else behavior you don't seem to mind, and we might even suggest that people who behave that way are making the game less fun for other people, but no one is telling them they can't do that (indeed they can, there are just social consequences that they'll likely face).

But I have to give you credit to sticking to that ad hominem strawman you've set up and knocked down so many, many times in this thread. If not for your tenacity, this thread would have died out a while ago. The irony is that in telling us to "get off our high horses," you've set yourself up on the highest horse of all - a horse made of the same strawman you keep trying to tear down.

[winsock]

Or you could just get off your high horse and stop telling other people how to play the game and use their time. That would also stop the cycle. And, that's also what I've been saying this entire time.

I will use your own terrible logic against you since that is what you seem to live by:
You telling me to stop calling you out for leaving is telling me how to use my time.
This makes you a hypocrit.
Therefore, I am justified to tell you how to use your time.

^ if you consider this logic bad (it is bad), your justification for abandoning your duty finder parties is also bad

[Brian_]

I will use your own terrible logic against you since that is what you seem to live by:
You telling me to stop calling you out for leaving is telling me how to use my time.
This makes you a hypocrit.
Therefore, I am justified to tell you how to use your time.

^ if you consider this logic bad (it is bad), your justification for abandoning your duty finder parties is also bad

This has gotten quite pathetic. I'll recap for you since you've resorted to such stupidity.

Tank: I don't want to do this roulette dungeon for whatever reason.

Your response:

If you dont want to do dungeons in the roulette, dont use the roulette.

In short, when you queue roulette, you consent to being available for any possible duty within that roulette.

Me: You don't get to lump your definition of how to use the roulette on someone else. You don't get to tell someone else how to play the game or make up rules they have to live by which go beyond the existing system.

You: I get to decide what you can and can't do and what is right and wrong. You're a selfish child.

The tank was just doing what they wanted to do. You are the one that clearly started this mess of finger-pointing, blaming, and shaming, but when it comes back around to slap you in the face you cry foul. The trademark of a self-righteous hypocrite.