What can I do to stop this?

[HoodRat]

Out of curiosity, which dungeons do tanks hate most? Just wondering what I have to look forward to

The one that everyone hates most is aetherochemical research facility because it's lengthy compared to other level 60 dungeons, it drops no loot at all, and it gives a small amount of tomes for completion. The only reason to run it is for the story quest, but it was put into the level 60 roulette because before hardly anyone ran it so people who needed it for the story had to wait a while. But now that it's in the roulette, it's possible to get put into a group of people who have all cleared it.

[Brian_]

This is your strawman argument again. No one in this thread has said or made this connection at all. It's not like some random group picked you up off the street and forced you to tank the dungeon for them. YOU VOLUNTEERED! Hence the obligation. Hence why you are a selfish jerk to go back on your word.

It's only a strawman because you didn't read this topic. As someone else already admitted when claiming strawman, they were blind to what they themselves have posted.

Multiple times in this thread I have asked if people actually consider both sides of the argument. Multiple times they have either deflected, ignored the question, flipped it back to the tank (thus missing the point of the question), or just distorted it into something completely different (winsock). You don't get to call something a strawman because you are blind. If you can't see how blindly one-sided winsock's posts are, you should stop saying that I'm attacking a strawman and start admitting you are a blind-man.

I didn't sign a binding agreement that I can't leave my group. That's your own delusional definition of what DF is. Look at the fricken facts and reality.

[Red_Wolf]

I didn't sign a binding agreement that I can't leave my group. That's your own delusional definition of what DF is. Look at the fricken facts and reality.

I am not blind. I see your selfish comments for what they are. I'm sorry if that upsets you. You want to pretend your selfish actions don't affect people and are acceptable. I don't know why. It says a lot about you as a person.

If this kind of behavior was acceptable, then why did SE make a penalty for it? Oh, that's right because ditching your DF group or forcing people back to the bottom of the DF queue is generally frowned upon.

There is no deflection. There is no other side to this argument. Most of the people that signed up for the DF (and have the misfortune of joining you) are willing to keep their word. Labeling their reasons for signing up for the DF as selfish is just nonsense. Is every single achievement/reward in this game considered a selfish task then? Is that what you're really trying to say? So when we game or do any leisurely activity we're just being selfish jerks? No... you can't make that argument. I am not playing this game at the expense of anyone else.

[Februs]

Out of curiosity, which dungeons do tanks hate most? Just wondering what I have to look forward to

Objectively or personally?

As a general rule, tanks insta-queue for most dungeons; so, we typically hate any dungeon in which the reward does not match the time it takes to complete it. That includes almost all of the MSQ roulette, as well as the Aetherochemical Research Facility. The ARF gets more hate than most, however, because SE decided to troll all of us and slot it into the lvl 60 roulette. Some of the lvl 50 grind can be kind of long too; so, Stone Vigil, Dzemael Darkhold, and Arum Vale were hated pretty strongly for a good long while as well.

Beyond that, it's a personal preference thing. If you hate speed pulls or tanking large groups of mobs, then you could have a distaste for any dungeon between patch 2.5 - 3.0. If you don't like slower paced dungeons and restricted pull sizes, then you might have a distaste for anything post 3.0, because SE decided to put an awful lot of doors into those dungeons. If you did a Zeta Relic Weapon before any of the nerfs, you almost certainly hate, with a deep seething passion, 1 or 2 (if not all) of the dungeons in that list, because running something 50 or 100+ times inspires some pretty impressive rage.

[Anienai]

Out of curiosity, which dungeons do tanks hate most? Just wondering what I have to look forward to

I like them all.

[Metalwrath]

Out of curiosity, which dungeons do tanks hate most? Just wondering what I have to look forward to

The level 60 dungeons i hate the most.Not because they are difficult because they aren't but it just so annoying with pulling multiple mobs as most of the trash seem to do AOE even more than autoattack.

[Ekimmak]

Out of curiosity, which dungeons do tanks hate most? Just wondering what I have to look forward to

I loathe Neverreap. It has so many unpleasant qualities that the whole dungeon just irks me whenever it comes up in the 60 roulette.

It's one of the only times where I'm capable of pulling more adds than my cooldowns + full healer attention can handle.

I can end up with four bee adds on me at once.

All of the bosses have damage immunity mechanics.

Fricking tornados.

Dhamels that are too dangerous to tank with other mobs.

And final boss gets an evasion buff on top of his immunity time, so if I try to fight it out of tank stance, I can end up missing due to losing that hit buff.

I would rather run Aetherochemical research facility than Neverreap.

[Canadane]

Out of curiosity, which dungeons do tanks hate most? Just wondering what I have to look forward to

I don't think there's a single dungeon I'd hate to tank.

[Lyth]

As a general rule of thumb, you shouldn't queue for something if you couldn't potentially either clear or get out of it prior to the start of raid time. There are about five hundred different non-instanced things that you can do while you wait for raid to start. It's always better to be kept waiting than to keep seven other people waiting.

[HoodRat]

As a general rule of thumb, you shouldn't queue for something if you couldn't potentially either clear or get out of it prior to the start of raid time. There are about five hundred different non-instanced things that you can do while you wait for raid to start. It's always better to be kept waiting than to keep seven other people waiting.

I can't remember exactly but I wanna say they went in about half an hour or twenty five minutes before raid (and this is after SE made it extremely easy to get 210). From the sounds of their horrified screams, the premade they got was absolutely horrible and one of my friends pointed out that one of the dps had the lowest dps out of all 8 players. And that was one they discovered that all those players were together and when what should have been a simple a3 df run became a hostage situation.