(New CC System "Combat Study"

[Kazrah]

but you see thats always a thing progression should be rewarded no?

Progression should be rewarded, but the reward should suit the progression. The progression required is equivalent to running a marathon for a reward that is a plate of melted chocolate. It's the exact same case as the relic weapon, where you have to do way too much for a weapon that is just as good as something you could buy in a fraction of the time.

I do like this idea since it promotes people trying other jobs in the game, but the rewards need to be something less game-breaking (including non-combat stuff) while keeping the progression part to something more reasonable for those who don't have the time to level every job in the game.

[TankHunter678]

I believe a better idea to unlocking skills seen as necessary for cross class skill list, without leveling classes you do not want to level, would be to introduce "skill books" which you purchase and then read. Adding the skill to the cross class list, however the skill still has to be earned for the class it comes from normally.

This way if you really do not like Dragoons/Lancer you can purchase the Blood for Blood book to learn it instead.

[OranKells]

Yeah this would also just create an illusion of choice. Its very hard to balance these things to make your choices meaningful, 9 times out of 10 there is either a correct best choice or simply no point in choosing at all.

[Kabzy]

I am not in favour of this. A lot of people will choose a job because it seems cool, but later on decide to main something else because they were forced to try out different classes for cross-class abilities. Also, with this system, people would have no incentives to explore other roles, and as such their understanding of them would be very limited.

[SpiritMuse]

I am not in favour of this. A lot of people will choose a job because it seems cool, but later on decide to main something else because they were forced to try out different classes for cross-class abilities. Also, with this system, people would have no incentives to explore other roles, and as such their understanding of them would be very limited.

I started out as a THM, and in order to unlock BLM I had to level archer. Which I enjoyed so much that I ended up leveling it all the way. Of course, in order to unlock BRD I had to level lancer. Which I enjoyed so much that I ended up leveling it, too, all the way. I now have everything bar 2 jobs to 60 and am working on the last two. And with each job leveled I became a better player overall due to increased understanding of what all the other jobs in the party did and how to play into that effectively. I am currently a tank main, which is about the furthest you can get from a squishy BLM. XD

[Seraphix2407]

Skill trees don't work its an illusion of choice. How many times can it be said?

Blade and soul is cool and isn't really an illusion. Many fights there requires different skills but also many uses different builds in the same fight, it's all up to the player how they want to play(playstyle. I do agree, most of the situation it's more about ''this build or you don't do it at all''. Oh well.

[Felis]

Progression should be rewarded, but the reward should suit the progression. The progression required is equivalent to running a marathon for a reward that is a plate of melted chocolate. It's the exact same case as the relic weapon, where you have to do way too much for a weapon that is just as good as something you could buy in a fraction of the time.

Do you get a ilevel 240 weapon from another place than Anima and Midas? I'm sure for the Lore weapon upgrade you have to still run Midas S

Topic:
How about changing it a bit back to the 1.x system
more freedom again, less restriction (only the jobskills should be exclusive), let the player choose what skills they want from the other classes.
Only condition: you have to level up the other class to the level where it learn the skill you want.

[Kazrah]

Do you get a ilevel 240 weapon from another place than Anima and Midas? I'm sure for the Lore weapon upgrade you have to still run Midas S

Actually I was referring to the 210 stage. That's just grinding for the sake of grinding.

Back to the main topic, I think I'll just stick to the idea of baking cross-class skills into other abilities and giving some other minor perk for leveling other jobs.