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  1. #61
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    Cherie's Avatar
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    Leviathan
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    So for you a "true" pet class is one with a risky pet glamour system that when you succeed you feel you have created an actual psychological bond with your pet's new glamour.
    I can see why you'd think that's what my point was. I didn't really elaborate a lot. I'll just add to what I said: Since you are taming a creature from out of the world, there are much more than 3 archetypes of pets. Sure, there were right and wrong ways to play their class, as far as end game went, but being a job about "pets" it sure felt more like that since there were lots of pets to choose from. Of course the "pet glamour" was a lot more fun but it was a bit deeper than that since most pets had different abilities. I won't deny some people solely picked their pets based on looks! But of course, the serious players picked differently for their main pets. Even between the "correct for endgame" pet choices, there were variations in models of beast you could pick... for instance, usually all of the "cat" types all had similar skills. Even that, which you'd assume we were talking about just "cat glamour" possibly: I can think of more than one game where taming a particular "cat" for instance would yield a rare ability that only that particular one had and no other cats had. However, maybe it was hard to get so even though maybe it was the best, since it was very difficult to track down and catch, even many raiders might not have it... (in wow's case they homogenized all pets cause people couldn't stand someone having something rare that gave them any kind of advantage in raiding even if it was 0.05% dps increase... -_- )

    Regarding what the OP was adding to this thread on puppetmaster, I think that would be a excellent way to fix the "pet class" problem. Having a puppet you could put together yourself and have many things added on to it that you could tweak would be a fun pet type of job. It solves the only 3 types of pets problem I indicated above. Granted, 3 pets can be plenty for most. A puppet would give people more of a feeling of a pet being "theirs" as their own character avatar is "theirs" in the same sense. Even if all the puppets looked the same, there is more room for having a personal pet you can tweak (like your character's gear in a sense, even though there really isn't a lot of a choice as far as correct gear choices go in this game). I guess that's what felt impersonal about summoner to me regarding its pets versus other pet jobs in other games. Summoner is a fun job for many though. I don't discount that. I guess the only argument is that summoner's pets really aren't much of a decision/choice as there is usually only on correct answer as far as what pet to use.
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    Last edited by Cherie; 05-28-2016 at 04:18 PM.

  2. #62
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    Savagelf's Avatar
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    the new dungeon has the cool tiger i want see if that can become someday bst pets
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  3. #63
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    Rogue Fuki
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    After seeing the trailer for Palace of the dead I feel like BST would be perfect for it since they are giving us more things you can solo in. Also giving us beast that have a different rolls all in one is perfect Healer, Attacker, Tank. Then you just add the Chocobo skill tree to it but with some extra adjustment to it so it is balanced for BST and I think it would be amazing. Imagen fight with ur Beast and chocobo including if they worked together when fighting a mob that would be awesome.
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  4. #64
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    to be honest I like more complex system like a trait system that beast allow you to earn as the beast lvl up. and skills aswell. I think of 3 different spec ranger dps tank and melee dps
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  5. #65
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    Astarotte Niuhali
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I can't see BST being a tank in FFXIV. Would be too complicated for the simple nature that the developers seem to like. Scholar/Summoners(not all) already don't control their pets, don't need a tank doing it too.
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  6. #66
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    I could see a system like one that used for pvp for the bst pets.
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  7. #67
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    Thamuz Sect
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Maybe a class with multiple pet insted of just 3 ?
    It would be fun to be abble to travel through Eorzea in order to find creature and tame them, we could have a "taming" log (not sure the word exists but you get the idea ^^") and the ability to tame every creature to make theme our alies, a catch them all kind of thing

    EDIt : Oh and with a beasty look, something like the dress sphere ine FF10-2, we really need less cuteness ^^"
    you took a raw blood thursty job and made it....cute /facepalm

    edit: you know PUP is the next pet based job, mammets are everwhere
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  8. #68
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    Altanas Aidendale
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    I just want to say this thread makes me so sad. Even if we got a new job, it still wouldn't be for another year... :*-(
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  9. #69
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    Rogue Fuki
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altanas View Post
    I just want to say this thread makes me so sad. Even if we got a new job, it still wouldn't be for another year... :*-(
    I would prefer to take all the time they need even if it's 2 years for them to get it right. Instead of it being a cimplete rip off another job from WoW and a poor mans version as well. I have said this more than once in other threads if SE want this job in this game they will. I have to laugh at people that post comments like it won't work blah blah blah. Again Yoshida wants it to be in the game they will and they will change what ever they have to to make it work, like they have already started doing to the combat system in the game I.e removing cross class skills and so on.
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  10. #70
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    Ash Kand'r
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    The Reason they stopped locking Pets and Summons behind fights and content is because they can very broken. Like when low level smns used to have high level summons and rekt stuff in your party or if they barely had any at all and were nothing more than a low-budget WhM or BLM.
    The pets need to be given out as you level but customizable with other pet skins like they should do SMN Glams. Also everything in this game can pretty much solo in the open world so the BST loses it's charm. I would like to see them but not to the extent of how they were in XI.
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