I will repeat what I said in the Other Battle Systems forum thread about pet classes and how I feel.
To elaborate further, a pet focused class can work, Blade and Soul's Summoner is a perfect example of this. The pet does the majority of the direct damage while the Summoner acts as a support for the pet, keeping it alive and supplementing it's damage with some dots, buffs, and debuffs. But the pet's survivability is balanced in such a fantastic way that it won't die to to stray AoE if you're doing your job of supporting it right but it can't solo tank a boss either so it won't just die and cripple your performance from stray boss AoE but isn't so OP that it obsoletes an actual tank class. Now granted the class will be in bad shape if you let the pet die, but keeping it alive and supporting it is where your skill as a player comes in.I want to agree with the topic but I honestly can't bring myself to and I'll tell you why, MMO design nowadays has turned pets in to little more than a glorified DoT while the player does the majority of the work. It's why I don't like Smn, the pet is basically nothing more than a bit of extra damage rather than being about you know actually SUMMONING things. Imagine if Smn actually summoned a large version of the avatar then mounted it and your hotbar was replaced by various attacks that you'd make the pet do. Essentially making you feel like you're a summoner commanding this powerful creature from it's back.
If we get a pet class, I'd want the focus to actually be on the pet and commanding it. Not on it being something that just supplements the job's damage.
You and your pet feel like a team in Blade and Soul and one can't work without the other, it's exactly how a Beastmaster style class SHOULD play if it's ever added to this game.
Last edited by Khalithar; 05-26-2016 at 04:45 AM.
Really how I'd expect Beastmaster in FFXIV is as a melee version summoner where some attacks would cause the pet to strike with you and have some pattern of BST attacks buffing the pet and pet attacks having a chance to increase the BST's damage or something along those lines, and it would have at least one cooldown to spawn extra animal companions to fight for some limited duration.
Puppeteer would likely fit that mindset of "QQ I want a real pet class", where it would look like it's shadowboxing while the puppet does all the actual damage. On the plus side, it would make for a more interesting alternative to physical ranged damage-dealers.
Puppeteer, just name alone makes me think that you just do double damage but at less potency, having a doll or puppet follow and mimic your every move, which I suppose could lead to some interesting skill options. Never got to play with it in XI myself.



http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Phoenix/Anienai
This one agrees we need BST!!!!!! Also I don't want some crappy lalafell npc involved.


I play ffxi and ffxiv i like both bst for ffxi, i even play wow to be honest wow was my gateway mmo. first off they nothing wrong want pet Job. I believe ffxiv is ffxiv isn't wow nor is it ffxi, it nether need to be wow like it need be ffxiv. ffxiv i like see pet jobs yes if they add bst it would fun. look ffxiv dev did a good job on chocobo, they can work on ffxiv summoner. look i nether wish see people to leave ffxiv. to be honest many people that play ffxi also play wow it seem.


You made a good point about the chocobo companion system. They have something like a skill tree and a point system this would be a good way to make the beast master pets for when they have to learn new abilitys/skills/attacks which ether you wanna call it but that could work.I play ffxi and ffxiv i like both bst for ffxi, i even play wow to be honest wow was my gateway mmo. first off they nothing wrong want pet Job. I believe ffxiv is ffxiv isn't wow nor is it ffxi, it nether need to be wow like it need be ffxiv. ffxiv i like see pet jobs yes if they add bst it would fun. look ffxiv dev did a good job on chocobo, they can work on ffxiv summoner. look i nether wish see people to leave ffxiv. to be honest many people that play ffxi also play wow it seem.

having to use Charm/dismiss a la ffxi would be awesome as well.
I truly want dnc 1st dnc was my main job in ffxi and I rocked on it. Dnc is better then any pet job Imo. I could solo almost anything on it. So while we are talking about solo jobs please please se bring back dnc.


to be honest one use this system like chocobo use for many jobs
puppeteer
summoner
and beast master
but change core skills and how those skills are used.
I don't think the devs don't know how to make pet system it more about tried balance said system with the other jobs out there. throw pet into mix it hard enough create system that could balance between, the other jobs.
Last edited by Savagelf; 05-26-2016 at 06:53 PM.
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