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    X'lantaa Lizhashen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    You say this as if the jobs here had anything to do with FFXI's.
    No, the jobs here a re good. I asay this for the people who insist on compare all with FFXI, and ask for same thigns than FFXI.

    And how many times I read in this forums "THis class on FFXI has this feature and not here" and other similar things, like Samurai is a DPS on FFXI so wil lbe DPS on FFXIV to (Could be or not, that Yoshi-P team decission). A class what work in a determoned way in FFXi doesn't mean that should be traspased here as is. That's why I specific, I want a Puppet master, but a FFXIV vision of the Puppet Master.
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    Last edited by Xlantaa; 05-26-2016 at 04:31 AM.

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    Selena Schwarz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xlantaa View Post
    No, the jobs here a re good. I asay this for the people who insist on compare all with FFXI, and ask for same thigns than FFXI.

    And how many times I read in this forums "THis class on FFXI has this feature and not here" and other similar things, like Samurai is a DPS on FFXI so wil lbe DPS on FFXIV to (Could be or not, that Yoshi-P team decission). A class what work in a determoned way in FFXi doesn't mean that should be traspased here as is. That's why I specific, I want a Puppet master, but a FFXIV vision of the Puppet Master.
    As much as it might hurt you, and as much as someone else brings the balance issues up, FFXI had the jobs right. And, you know, this is a FF, and I don't see you guys complaining about people asking for WoW things. So please.

    Also, it's not like this dev team is being true to the roots of the jobs anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    As much as it might hurt you, and as much as someone else brings the balance issues up, FFXI had the jobs right. edit for limits
    I have to respectfully disagree a little. I liked the way XI did most of its jobs, but I also enjoy the XIV version of the jobs too. I played SMN in XI and play it here too. Different strokes for different folks.

    With the balancing statements, I think most of us who bring it up do so because we don't want to go back to the days where our main job may not be wanted. I loved playing dancer, but it was absolute crap in endgame. Or, black mages had a rough time for years getting exp parties because colibris reflected magic. Even with this game warriors weren't wanted in Coil because initially paladins mitigated damage so much better.

    In regards to a pet based pet job, I strongly get the impression that the dev team flat out has no clue how to implement one. Sorry, but that's just how I feel.
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    On my phone so if it didn't increase my character limit I would have quote the person, but someone already stated that if they implemented a true pet class, with current pet settings, they would need to readjust damage calculations or do something a long the lines of a "soul link" where the pet now takes equal damage that players do, but the pet does not have an HP bar, pets damage is calculated into BST HP loss, I mean there needs to be a downside to this class, it can't be OP and if pet dies you simply recast and back in it goes. Plus, linking the HP loss to the BST would make it easier for a healer to compensate due to current UI systems not allowing party members to have a pet party HP bar. Knowing SE they would make BST front line support and your primary pet actions would have cast times lol.
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    I do kinda agree that a pet class should be added where they do majority, if not all the work. Taking a slight page from PSO2 the Summoner class there is based off the pet, to my knowledge cus I am not to far into it, you have no direct attacks at all you just simply command the pet where to strike. If the pet dies, your forced to switch classes for a bit. Seeing as that is not an actual option here, we could do a life-link in a way where any damage the pet takes is actually received by the player and thus if the player dies, so does the pet? However seeing how the game is going I would wager the pets would be done the same way as Summoner, at certain levels you just receive a set pet, call what the situation needs.
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    I'd love to see racial pets(kind of like in FFX-2 the pets are different depending if you are Yuna, Rikku or Paine) with a skill point system like companion chocobo(limited amount of points or rows like WoW's talent system).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slirith View Post
    I'd love to see racial pets(kind of like in FFX-2 the pets are different depending if you are Yuna, Rikku or Paine) with a skill point system like companion chocobo(limited amount of points or rows like WoW's talent system).
    Then people will complain they can't have a pet from another race and say its not fair. I don't see that ending well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    Then people will complain they can't have a pet from another race and say its not fair. I don't see that ending well.
    And people don't complain now regarding race only stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slirith View Post
    And people don't complain now regarding race only stuff?
    Exactly why it would just be a salt fest if this happened.

    (Im all for race specific things btw so I wouldn't mind something like this or any other type of differences to add flavor to the game)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    Then people will complain they can't have a pet from another race and say its not fair. I don't see that ending well.
    Then pet glamour, just like SMN, problem solved
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    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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