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    SCH and WHM Secondary Stats

    So 3.3 is coming soon and I'll get to customize my sch anima. I know that crit is obviously the first choice, but I'm not sure what other stats would be good after that. Does anyone have any recommendations?

    And I guess I could ask the same thing about whm. I just got the i230 Hailstorm Cane with 86 piety and 114 spell speed. Normally for whm I would add more spell speed but it's capped. Should I use two piety V's or is there a better choice?
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    Sir Rawrz
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    For SCH I think I'm going to go with Max Crit and then Split ACC and Det, assuming we have 240 Stats to work with, that would be 120 Crit, 60 acc and 60 Det. This would reduce my need for ovemelds, freeing up my rings and eventually my top. I would think you're alright melding piety there, since most main healers will go for that. Losing all the extra Piety from my SCH relic, makes me a bit worried in terms of MP since I'll be back to ilevel 180ish, but the overall DPS boost from shaving it, excites me. xD
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    Don't put any points into Determination ever. Seriously just save yourself the trouble.

    Scholar's should max out Crit obviously. Accuracy is pretty significant for scholars as well, so putting a lot of points in there would be a good idea. The rest can probably go into Piety, as a full-time DPS rotation will actually start to dip into your MP reserves. If we had 240 (which last I check it's actually 228) I would go 120 Crit, 90 Accuracy, and 30 Piety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabeta View Post
    Scholar's should max out Crit obviously. Accuracy is pretty significant for scholars as well, so putting a lot of points in there would be a good idea. The rest can probably go into Piety, as a full-time DPS rotation will actually start to dip into your MP reserves. If we had 240 (which last I check it's actually 228) I would go 120 Crit, 90 Accuracy, and 30 Piety.
    So accuracy is a good thing to put on a healer relic? I know that when I was doing my blm arr relic it wasn't recommended, but maybe that's because there was already accuracy on caster gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeiranOlive View Post
    So accuracy is a good thing to put on a healer relic? I know that when I was doing my blm arr relic it wasn't recommended, but maybe that's because there was already accuracy on caster gear.
    Precisely why. Healer clothes don't come with any Accuracy of our own. For the time being we've circumvented this by pretty much melding accuracy onto all of our equipment, even taking an ilvl dip in order to reach the cap. Being able to put a large number of points into it through our weapon should allow us to use higher ilvl gear, as well as potentially putting some of those melds to something like Crit.
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    Even if you don't cap accuracy, the chances of hitting per accuracy point you gain (when you're lower than cap) will be higher than the benefits of the same points into critical. So I'd say that if you're in doubt about these two: go accuracy. Now for anything else, if you aren't gearing SCH wich should prioritize crit for obvious reasons. Anything else works and varies along with your playstyle.

    On the topic of accuracy on relic, this may ease up you getting inside cap without melding too much accuracy into your slots. And maybe for next raid you'll only be able to reach new accuracy caps with the Anima.
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    Would accuracy still be a good choice if I do EX primals, but not savage? I don't think I'll be raiding any time in the near future. Are the accuracy caps the same for both?
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    If you want to deal damage. Sure, accuracy is way to go. If you're more of a conservative healer. People shoulodn't judge you about not dpsing on primals so you'll be fine without accuracy. Of course, healer damage gives that extra help on pushing phases faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    If you want to deal damage. Sure, accuracy is way to go. If you're more of a conservative healer. People shoulodn't judge you about not dpsing on primals so you'll be fine without accuracy. Of course, healer damage gives that extra help on pushing phases faster.
    Also to add to this, EX primals are not as highly tuned as Savage raids are, so healer dps shouldnt have to make such a big contribution to the groups success. A SCH without accuracy should be able to contribute enough dps to the group anyway .
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    Yeah but if you wanna dps, you better not miss, don't you think ?
    Also, about the subject, i too want to put acc on my relic but i still have any idea how much...
    Sabeta said 90 and 30 piety but piety seems kinda useless at this rate. ( Gear gives way enough mana for a sch, when you're dpsing you never run out of it). Anyway got a precise idea ?
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