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    Petdo's Avatar
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    Ma Nya
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    Tonberry
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    Goldsmith Lv 60

    Suggestion for Novice Network system - Too many whining sprouts

    I would like to suggest about Novice Network system feature for future patch;

    Problem
    I was invited sprouts to Novice Network as the system recommended, but some sprout are complaining/telling me these...
    * Why you add me to this chat log without asking first?!?
    * Please kick me from this chat! I don't want to see it!
    * This is my alt, please kick me.
    * How to disable this chat log?

    By encounter those complaining, I feel very discourage to invite any new sprouts to NN system and feel like my contribution to the game community is in vain.

    Recommendation
    * Is it better to pop the confirmation window when mentor invite sprout to the network? Like "You are invite to Novice Network.yada yada.. Join? Yes/No"
    * If sprout choose No, make sure to give the choice for them to disable sprout icon so any mentor will not try to invite them again in the future. eg. "Disable sprout icon to prevent mentor from invite you to NN in the future? Yes/No"
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    Honestly is it really that hard to talk to people first? You know, send them a /tell introducing yourself and then asking if they would be interested in joining the Novice Network instead of spamming invites, god forbid you have to talk to people in an mmo.
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Legacy View Post
    Honestly is it really that hard to talk to people first? You know, send them a /tell introducing yourself and then asking if they would be interested in joining the Novice Network instead of spamming invites, god forbid you have to talk to people in an mmo.
    Trial accounts can't reply to tells, so yes, as obnoxious as it sounds the system was designed around mass invites, and the patch notes even recommend people to use player search for it.

    Now this thread will further devolve into people attacking the network without being part of it.

    OP's suggestion is good, mentor sends invite, novice gets a window explaining what is the novice network and if they want to join, they can y/n.

    Also add a "leave novice network" button instead of having to type a command.


    EDIT, READ BEFORE REPLYING. For any other person who wants to quote me: Trial accounts can't reply to tells, you have 50-60 new sprouts that are potentially trial accounts, how do you counter that?
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    Last edited by alimdia; 05-22-2016 at 11:12 AM.

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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
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    Oh please. Yes the patch notes say use the player search to invite new adventures. Give me a break dude SE doesn't have to give us step by your step instructions to know how to invite ppl.

    Yes, SE said invite. Is ur first choice to assume they mean simply invite them without a word or do u think there's more to it?

    OH did u also know u can send tells via player search??
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
    Main job: SCH/MNK
    Raid job: Gathering
    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morzy View Post
    Oh please. Yes the patch notes say use the player search to invite new adventures. Give me a break dude SE doesn't have to give us step by your step instructions to know how to invite ppl.

    Yes, SE said invite. Is ur first choice to assume they mean simply invite them without a word or do u think there's more to it?

    OH did u also know u can send tells via player search??
    I'm gonna repeat myself: Trial accounts can't reply to tells, and a good chunk of sprouts are trial accounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    I'm gonna repeat myself: Trial accounts can't reply to tells, and a good chunk of sprouts are trial accounts.
    And what about those non trial accounts. And honestly walking around and engaging leafers via say isn't that bad. Probably the most friendly thing u can do for them at first. But I don't see it much. I guess I wish mentors engaged more as a friend and not a NN inviter.

    I agree the NN clashes with trial accounts which is a real shame, I want to them to have a good experience. But we aren't sints.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
    Main job: SCH/MNK
    Raid job: Gathering
    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

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    Those sprouts sound like they have a reason to whine. Sounds like and sorry if I'm making assumptions but you're just sending out random invites without asking, that's as bad as FC's sending out blanket invites. Atleast with those you can refuse. I've been hearing a lot of bad things about Tonberry Novice Network anyway.
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    Isn't the automatic insertion into the NN upon receiving an invitation based on the assumption that a new player(sprout) may not understand the game well enough to essentially understand what's good for them though?
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    Isn't the automatic insertion into the NN upon receiving an invitation based on the assumption that a new player(sprout) may not understand the game well enough to essentially understand what's good for them though?
    That's the idea, but the reality is people can easily get creeped out by getting dragged into a group they don't know and I bet most new players don't even know what the Novice Network is.
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    I guess it boils down to loss vs gains. Sure there will be those who express distaste at having their (imaginary) personal bubble violated, but since those who choose to stay far outnumber those who leave it must work well enough.
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