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    Question about FFXIV running @4k & @60hz reliably: Please assist

    First off I would like to ask if we have an area in on the forums where we can talk about our rigs and setups and what works and what does not? I could not find one specifically for this. Tech support did not look like one to me.

    On to my main point. I have a small form factor pc that can only run one gpu period. No room for a second one even if I wanted to. The other big issue is because of the SFF nature of the pc I must use a reference design blower that expels air out of the case. Finally my other requirement and it's a big one is the GPU cannot pull more than 230TDP overall. So far so good I was allowed to installed Nvidia GTX980 this past November so everything was cool.

    I say cool till I got this idea I would try and 4k game and do it at 60hz. Much to my shock that my pc was not going to do this till I was able to double the install to 2 gpu's running sli. Again not an option so I just figured I would enjoy my games at 1080p and at 120hz. Which tbh is not really all that bad.

    I still would like to get a taste of 4k so I kept my ears and eyes open for some new toy from either AMD or Nvidia. I didn't care who did it first I just wanted one of them to do it. Do what? You might ask. Make a new chipset that can game at 4k and at 60hz on one gpu. Nvida has claimed such a beast and it is called GTX 1080. Of all numbers to give it seeing as that is what I am gaming at right now 1080p lol.

    Now that is the official hype from Nvidia. But as I looked around the internet and googled if 60hz 4k gaming was doable on a single gpu stuff like Titan x and sorta came up over and over.

    I'm going to ask the question here straight out as I am technical but not in the sense that I can weigh all the theory data and make assumptions as to what a device might or might not do.

    1) Can the new GTX 1080 run FFXIV on max settings at 4k and at 60hz with no drop in framerate below 60hz with today's settings in the game we have?

    2) If not what do you recommend turning off to maintain framerate?

    3) Seeing as FFXIV is not as demanding as many other newer games on the market do you think as 4k textures get added and other various ui tweeks that 4k gaming at 60hz will be even harder than today on FFXIV?

    I would be very interested in hearing someone technical opinions on my situation.
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    GTX 1080 and 2 SLI GTX 980 aren't that different in terms of performance, you can see a lot of details about the 1080 here mainly 4k benchmarks between titanx, SLI 980s and the new 1080

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-61Zn4Sb8Q
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    Good youtube video reference thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by mp-please View Post
    GTX 1080 and 2 SLI GTX 980 aren't that different in terms of performance, you can see a lot of details about the 1080 here mainly 4k benchmarks between titanx, SLI 980s and the new 1080

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-61Zn4Sb8Q
    I thought that was an excellent video. Taking from that and what else I have read then the new gtx 1080 may not be quite up to the task to single hand perform 4k @ 60hz on max settings. It might keep 60hz or 60fps as most ppl call it with some tweak settings.

    Any further suggestions on what else besides the resolution and refresh rate that might impact stable fps and can be toned down without too much sacrifice on quality? The whole point in going 4k was for more eye candy for myself. Can't say why others might want it. It's not mando but it is something I would like to try and do. I read an overclock might help stabilize the frame rate. And from what I read you can do a decent one on the core clock and memory on air. Being my situation I am stuck with reference cards for now on this SFF but that's not so bad I actually don't mind. Simplifies my gaming setup sometimes on games that fuss over sli or crossfire.
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    I think I read somewhere that by 3.3 patch we might see some good changes to how ffxiv handles 4k video in game. We have already started seeing some ui scaling ones. Pretty excited to see what the developers has in mind for changes and how those will make 4k better overall.
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    I have an i7 6700k and SLI GeForce GTX 980 Ti (x2). For the most part the game runs about 60FPS in instances. Lowest I've seen my FPS drop was to 45FPS in Idyllshire (This is with Max Settings with LOD on). Only con that seems to happen to me is that my game hiccups, so it freezes for about a sec or 2 before it goes back to normal. It happens like maybe once or twice in my long play sessions.
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    Bump! I'm also very interested in who is running this at 4k, what video card(s), they are using and how well the game runs at 4k.
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    Oh boy, I can't wait for the update where Ramuh drops out of the sky like "sup dawg, we gon fight up in dis tree to see who da most swoll in da woods".
    "Be excellent to each other."

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    Getting a 1080 would be your best bet, also your cheapest. You might not be able to play at max settings, but pretty close.
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    I just read where the gtx 1080 is very overclockable and found a link on hardocp explaining what you can get away with for now. Also it's give that the gpu drivers are still not mature yet so there might be some wiggle room there. My concern is that while I'm gearing up to make the 1080 run 4k @60fps I might be playing catch up as the developers of ffxiv patch in 4k content and make the system requirements to run go higher for 4k @60fps. I really hope they add textures and content to make full use of 4k I just hope that I am ready when they do. I would tend to agree with the tone of this thread that the gtx1080 will be a good card for 4k gaming and FFXIV.

    Review: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/...ition_review/1
    Overclock Review: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/...ocking_preview

    Maybe with the overclock and the drivers updated some we might then see average frame rate of 60fps in games that are already out. Here's to hoping.

    Already got my eyes on one of these(see link below). Seeing as how I am stuck at 230w TDP and a reference cooler design due to my SFF case I feel like this is my best value for a long time coming. Most of the time aftermarket cards later on change the fan design and up the power needs beyond the reference. Still for a reference card that don't sound all that bad. I bought the pc last xmas knowing full well that a gpu upgrade of 600+ would be likely every 2 to 3 years to keep it current. I am ok with that since I have several more pc's around that house that can use the upgrades I pass along lol.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...09%20601201888
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