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    Player Azurus's Avatar
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    The world aint all rainbows and butterflys! cant have light without darkness for without one the other is meaningless! Eorzea needs to start drawing on some forbidden powers soon or the garleans with their magitek and gunknuckles are gonna steamroll us lol.
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    Necro-Bump!

    I would like to see every job possible make it in FFXIV, and I think we need to discuss more about Necromancer's potential, and there is already a story about necromancy in Ul'dah history/lore.

    I think its safe to assume it wont make it in FFXIV ARR, but in a future expansion it makes perfect sense for it to be implemented later along with other advance jobs.
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    I think necro-thread-hunting is becoming a new sport on these forums. >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    I think necro-thread-hunting is becoming a new sport on these forums. >.<
    Well, we are waiting for BETA so there's nothing wrong with this thread. Unlike the "FFXIV is not being remade for you" thread, yes I know I was a necromancer cause of that. lol X3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    I think necro-thread-hunting is becoming a new sport on these forums. >.<
    lol yep ;( .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    I think necro-thread-hunting is becoming a new sport on these forums. >.<
    Because making an new thread when a thread on the topic already exsists is NOT the correct course of action!

    To add, Zombies and walking skeletons exsist in this game, so I beleive somewhere there are necromancers making these zombies. We can learn from them....
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    If Necromancer ever managed to get the go ahead i can imagine a much different pet job to the ones that came before it. Where as with Summoner, ffxi Dragoon, Beastmaster and Puppetmaster theres some kind of bond. I see Necromancer as being cold. The pets are expendable fodder for the Necromancer to use however he/she wishes. Rising them from the depths with a spell, Rather than how can i keep my pet alive the longest it would be whats the most beneficial way for my pet to die. Like detonating them to do damage, Making them cover you/allies from an attack, Sacrificing them to buff/debuff, using them as sacrificial decoys.
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  8. #108
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    I really don't like the "Necromancer" style job.. Although it would be wrong to deprive the fans of it if it really is in the THM lore.

    I just really don't like the idea of a "hero" playing a traditionally "evil" job. Raising ghosts/skeletons etc from the dead is just too grim and dark for a "hero" to play I feel.. I would be open to a dungeon boss that has necromancer like abilities though..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    I really don't like the "Necromancer" style job.. Although it would be wrong to deprive the fans of it if it really is in the THM lore.

    I just really don't like the idea of a "hero" playing a traditionally "evil" job. Raising ghosts/skeletons etc from the dead is just too grim and dark for a "hero" to play I feel.. I would be open to a dungeon boss that has necromancer like abilities though..
    You basically summed it up for me - necromancy is a dark, evil art which is contextually at odds with the game's central theme. This isn't World of Warcraft where players can choose an 'evil' or 'good' side - we're all meant to be on the side of 'good' here, so playing as an evil mage who can raise an army of the undead just doesn't sit with that.

    Besides, lore wise the game would actually give reason for such a power to be despised - it's not too dissimilar to the Garleans wanting to wipe out the 'beastmen' (and those with the Echo) for summoning Primals. If theoretically Eorzean adventurers could use necromancy, then that's virtually just vindicating Garlemald's 'end justifies the means' policy of assaulting Eorzea to destroy anything that they could consider a threat.

    Hence, those wanting a Necromancer job in FFXIV (or hell, even in FFXI for that matter), don't hold your breath.
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    I really don't like the "Necromancer" style job.. Although it would be wrong to deprive the fans of it if it really is in the THM lore.

    I just really don't like the idea of a "hero" playing a traditionally "evil" job. Raising ghosts/skeletons etc from the dead is just too grim and dark for a "hero" to play I feel.. I would be open to a dungeon boss that has necromancer like abilities though..
    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    You basically summed it up for me - necromancy is a dark, evil art which is contextually at odds with the game's central theme. This isn't World of Warcraft where players can choose an 'evil' or 'good' side - we're all meant to be on the side of 'good' here, so playing as an evil mage who can raise an army of the undead just doesn't sit with that.

    Besides, lore wise the game would actually give reason for such a power to be despised - it's not too dissimilar to the Garleans wanting to wipe out the 'beastmen' (and those with the Echo) for summoning Primals. If theoretically Eorzean adventurers could use necromancy, then that's virtually just vindicating Garlemald's 'end justifies the means' policy of assaulting Eorzea to destroy anything that they could consider a threat.

    Hence, those wanting a Necromancer job in FFXIV (or hell, even in FFXI for that matter), don't hold your breath.

    I'm compelled to shed some light, and wisdom on you both.

    Please consider these irrefutable facts.

    FFXIV Summoner job description. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/about/game/jobs/summoner

    "The beast tribes of Eorzea worship and summon forth beings known as primals, among which are Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan. Yet what is a god to one man is a demon to another, for the city-states of Eorzea see these beings as a grave threat to their collective survival."

    That is not exactly your rainbow, peaches, and unicorns is it..? Summoner is a forbidden art, just like Necromancer.

    To top it all off, Necromancer is an advance job in FF5 Advance. Not just a WoW thing...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en4tgl0ZAPY


    I don't mind if Necromancer makes it way in FFXIV, in fact I want it in FFXIV, but it'll be a damn shame if it didn't. There are other jobs I don't care about leveling, but the difference is that I don't deny them of their existence. I really think people should welcome new things that will appeal to many different players as possible.
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    Last edited by Andrien; 02-01-2013 at 08:15 PM.

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