Thread: WAR's 2.1 changes.

I said it then and I still think it now, the changes to WAR in 2.1 were too much. WAR is the OT, it has insane damage and loads of utility, it's the spot WAR was meant to fill.

But the problem is, it has the easiest time as MT too and this is wrong imo. In 2.0 WAR struggled as the MT and I think this was a good thing. Now I'm not saying it didn't need any changes and most of them were fine, the only issue I really have is inner beast and vengeance, IB should have stayed how it was and vengeance should have been given a lower damage reduction if any.

The way I see it WAR should struggle as the MT, it should be able to do it, but it should not be able to do it consistently, like it can, without swaps. (Shouldn't be able to solo tank all of Midas normal for example). But with the way it's CD's work it's far too strong as both MT and OT. I have nothing against it's OT damage and utility but it should come at a cost to its MT ability like it did in 2.0. WAR should not be able to solo tank things easier than PLD and DRK if at all.

No daddy stop i dont wanna heal this WAR through Qarn! oh god oh god! No why cant his health stay in the same spot?

everytime i look at my mp bar as a drk in a big pull it reminds me of 2.0 warriors health. I do get what youre saying, but the 2.1 fix was a overhaul to make warrior work better, and it did. The meta isnt how warrior is designed needing to be toned down, its that the other tanks need to be specced up to be as good. This happens all the time, with DPS adjustments, the whole balancing act is a tug of war. I will say one thing though, healing 2.0 warriors was a nightmare and im glad those days are over.

I'm not saying undo all the changes, taking the increased healing off wrath and putting it in defiance was good, giving storm's eye a damage reduction was good, but IB should have stayed as a big self heal and vengeance should have been 15-20% damage reduction at most. The main issue with healing 2.0 war was they were very hard to heal because of the fluctuating healing recieved from them using wrath, I'm not asking for that to be changed back.

Originally Posted by Cabalabob

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youre right it was chaotic and unpredictable, just like drk mp in a big pull, it made it hard to gauge whether the warrior was already gonna die before the spell cast was done, or if he was gonna jump up 50 percent by magic, and yeah i didnt think you wanted to undo those changes i just feel like they were necessary- then they put some topping on to make sure warrior wasnt getting dumped any time soon. I have to admit though those design choices were great, solid why cant they take the time to look at the other two tanks and see what needs improvement? Hell the community has already made so many great suggestions already, that could work just fine

Edit: I'll also add that when talking about healers or tanks, the problem with balance is that they have to do their role good and do it well, we saw this problem with ast coming in with less potency heals. well that is a hindrance when youre the only healer in content like dungeons, can be fiddled with in full party content, but untimately even if you throw a tank in a niche, a healer in a niche they still have to function well when theyre the only one. Niches should honestly come, after balance is made, otherwise you just see every patch and half patch "adjustments made to job x"

PLD makes a better OT anyway.

Originally Posted by ADVSS

No daddy stop i dont wanna heal this WAR through Qarn! oh god oh god! No why cant his health stay in the same spot?

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