Original lancers!!!!!!!!!

[Krausus]

yes i know this i have seen the videos. so to the question why won't ppl take any class other than lancer. what do you think the solution will be? you can't increase the range of the other classes or reduce the range of lance, so one idea is. you can give arch back their multi shot and make their pierce moves work, and increase damage done by other dps classes. or another idea is make lancer less appealing by reducing the damage they do or increase there miss rate. also don't forget 1.20 is going to be the biggest rebalancing patch we have had yet. i think mages ar going to be the prefered choice for ifrit after 1.20 but that is just a thought

P.S. i'm sure i heard the dev's are looking into the problem with other classes not being invited to ifrit. i'm not blamig lancers or saying it your fault you can't blame ppl for using the best tool for the job. but i can see why SE would want to change this

My suggestion? well I have a few not set on any one in particular but there are a few adjustments they probably could make if for anything just to stop excluding other classes.

fight suggestion:

Remove sear
lower the frequency sear occurs.

Class suggestion:

Healing:

reduce MP cost on cures
increase potency of ethers
reduce delay from not moving to MP regening

Archer:

give the option to turn auto attack on
give them an ability that cost 2K TP that does a certain amount of damage and increases in damage for every extra point of TP over 2,000


any of those suggestions would fix the problem none of them would nerf any class.

Now keep this in mind, what would happen if they nerfed LNC damage? Nothing LNC would still be prefered, the only thing this would change is making the fight longer, you would know this if you actually experienced the fight and not based everything off one video, and btw other LS's have defeated Ifrit faster with less lancers, that fight is about skill, quick thinking, and positioning not about raw DPS.

Oh about the PS: they said the same thing about Damzehl Darkhold, now look at Archer. Also I'm am one of the leaders of an LS trust me when I say it blows to tell Johnny he cant come because he isn't lancer, I want equal rights for all DD classes.

[grandm]

My suggestion? well I have a few not set on any one in particular but there are a few adjustments they probably could make if for anything just to stop excluding other classes.

fight suggestion:

Remove sear
lower the frequency sear occurs.

Class suggestion:

Healing:

reduce MP cost on cures
increase potency of ethers
reduce delay from not moving to MP regening

Archer:

give the option to turn auto attack on
give them an ability that cost 2K TP that does a certain amount of damage and increases in damage for every extra point of TP over 2,000


any of those suggestions would fix the problem none of them would nerf any class.

Now keep this in mind, what would happen if they nerfed LNC damage? Nothing LNC would still be prefered, the only thing this would change is making the fight longer, you would know this if you actually experienced the fight and not based everything off one video, and btw other LS's have defeated Ifrit faster with less lancers, that fight is about skill, quick thinking, and positioning not about raw DPS.

Oh about the PS: they said the same thing about Damzehl Darkhold, now look at Archer. Also I'm am one of the leaders of an LS trust me when I say it blows to tell Johnny he cant come because he isn't lancer, I want equal rights for all DD classes.

i wish you would stop going on about me playing it, i'm sorry i am not 50 yet. i will take my opinions and leave you to sit in ignorance of the impending nerf you have coming

[DantesAmore]

any hardcore player will have all 50's on Disiplines of war and magic and this game has a lot of hardcores on it lol. lnc was never few its always been a fan fav.. LNC and ARC. same with GLA and MRD and THM. the few is PGL's since most players that play it dont gear the best but the ones that do use it right are badass's like Nawty Sin on Saronia she's a PGL beast!

[Krausus]

i wish you would stop going on about me playing it, i'm sorry i am not 50 yet. i will take my opinions and leave you to sit in ignorance of the impending nerf you have coming

QQ ?


you are the one that acted like you knew enough about this fight that it warrants a class nerf when in fact you blindly followed the rest of the yokels with pitchforks and torches. I'm just trying to educate you, I know I sure as hell dont comment about stuff I have no experience with.

[Belial]

QQ ?


you are the one that acted like you knew enough about this fight that it warrants a class nerf when in fact you blindly followed the rest of the yokels with pitchforks and torches. I'm just trying to educate you, I know I sure as hell dont comment about stuff I have no experience with.

I think you're flogging a dead horse, dude.


@ grandm
Lancer will likely not be nerfed.

And just for sh-ts n' giggles, I'll tell you why.

Over the past few patches we have seen many class/battle balancing changes, which will continue likely into 1.22/1.23.

As it stands now, they are moving classes from the "mix-n-mash clusterf-ck" they have been, and creating archetypes within the game. Here's what's shaping up on the horizon:

GLA: Single-target tank.
PGL: Evasion tank.
MRD: AoE Damge/Trash tank.
LNC: Strict DD.
ARC: Buffer.
CNJ/THM: Heals and/or DD/DoTs.
THM/CNJ: DD/DoTs and/or Heals.

We will be left with:
Two tanks, Two DD (one arguably a tank on trash mobs due to it's high damage output), Two Mages, One Buffer.

Thus, Lancer is not likely to be nerfed in any sense.

What is likely, is a huge buff coming once DRG emerges.

[Rokien]

I think each class has its place in the ifrit fight. Archer could avoid EVERY attack if they are good enough. They still do good damage, ya not as much as lancer on a single target. But they have great AOE skills(not really helpful against ifrit). I think every class has their place in the game, I just hate how everyone is like "LANCER ONRY OR GTFO" It's like.... you never even LIKED lancer before, now you're a lancer junky. They don't need to nerf lancer, they just have to adjust the fight a bit. My pug friend can do just as much dmg as I on the fight. He aslo can take a hit better as well. Again every class has its place, it's just how you use them.

[Babydoll]

Wanting to be unique in a MMO just isn't going to work. >.< I understand what you are saying OP, but eventually it is bound to happen.

[Hyrist]

"Original" dosen't carry much weight in an MMO. Though if you stick with it after it stops being a flavor of the month, you'll keep the identity you like.

But that doesn't have to be the result of a nerf or a buff so much as introduction of more content. Not every class is going to shine in every fight, Lancer does with Ifrit. That might not be true with Ifrit, Garuda (which I expect will require some ranged classes to work with. I imagine her being able to fly out of attack range for a period of time, which Ranger will do well with.)

This is just sort of one of the phases the game goes through. Though I doubt the popularity of Lancer is going to wane much untill other jobs are introduced. Dragon is popular just based on aesthetics. We'll see how the mechanics work with it later. But until the classes and jobs flush out, the choices are sort of limited.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

LNC from the beginning here, been loving lancer since launch til now.

[Hartigan_Redsail]

Meh, I'm lvling archer now :P