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    Quote Originally Posted by NaesakiAshwell View Post
    With a 50% chance for the portal to appear, to only get in after a months. That would be some of the unluckiest RNG in the world.
    Then a 50% chance to keep progressing.
    There is nothing wrong with the RNG implementation for this treasure dungeon.
    There is also so much you can do to RNG.
    We will see, remember the 98% crafts and BOOF failure 8 times in a row...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    We will see, remember the 98% crafts and BOOF failure 8 times in a row...
    Thats just the nature of the RNG, you are literally complaining about something that is fundamentally very abstract.

    The statistics are extremely low of that instance occurring but it is still statistically possible.

    The whole treasure dungeon is supposed to be an extra bonus and maybe you'll get some additional goodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaesakiAshwell View Post
    Thats just the nature of the RNG, you are literally complaining about something that is fundamentally very abstract.
    The statistics are extremely low of that instance occurring but it is still statistically possible.
    Not sure if you are a crafter, but well... in FFXIV its happening A LOT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Not sure if you are a crafter, but well... in FFXIV its happening A LOT
    I'm a crafter. Nope. Have never seen it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Not sure if you are a crafter, but well... in FFXIV its happening A LOT
    I am, and I'm afraid you just have bad luck.

    I've had many times when I've had a 95% to 99% to mine something and its failed 3 times in a row, its annoying sure but its nothing to get riled up about.

    I've had many times when I've been crafting and HQing at 1%.

    Its all down to luck and whether Lady Luck smiles or not is random and getting riled up about it is just utterly pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Not sure if you are a crafter, but well... in FFXIV its happening A LOT
    Sorry, but you're WRONG (see how that works?)
    I'm an omnicrafter in the sense that I have three characters to cover every single specialist. This does happen every now and then, but doesn't happen A LOT.

    As for how, according to you, it's not possible to design the reward around the content, do you even know what the reward from the 7th room is?
    It's a guaranteed drop of multiple grade V materia, and every player in the group receives 100,000 gil

    If getting to the 7th room didn't involve RNG in its base design, without the rewards being altered, that'd mean the game would generate 800k with every opened portal.
    If you don't see any issue here, then you're the one that's been sleeping through this entire discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Crafter max level with using all skills and best in slot but failing in low level crafts -> RNG used wrong
    We will see, remember the 98% crafts and BOOF failure 8 times in a row...
    A max level crafter failing a low level craft is cause they failed it themselves. Two, I have never failed a 98% high quality 8 times in a row.
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    Is it reset Tuesday yet.

    I question whether I'm playing a PvE game with PvP mixed in, or I am I playing a PfG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    We will see, remember the 98% crafts and BOOF failure 8 times in a row...
    And how many sucess had you with 98% after 100 or 200 tries?

    With % chances small numbers (like 8) are worthless. You have to come with the big numbers.

    Also what your comic not tell: the one who found his atma really fast needed 2 days in the next zone, while the other 2 found it this time in 2 hours
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    Last edited by Felis; 05-27-2016 at 10:58 PM.