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    Malakym's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Because it's supposed to be a fun thing to do, something that gives a bit more incentive for players to run the dragonskin maps....
    I don't really see how getting unlucky and not getting past the third floor multiple times when there is already only a small chance to get in at all (and that will happen at some point, with how RNG tends to be in this game I can practically guarantee it) is a fun time. Why is applying RNG twice... sorry, 8 times to the event necessary to make the items rare? If it's supposed to be for fun, why not make getting to the last floor more based on skill and then, you know - just make the drops less than guaranteed? What is the point of gathering 3 other people to go in just to have the experience go out with a fart after two floors? Seems like a waste of time / effort to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakym View Post
    I don't really see how getting unlucky and not getting past the third floor multiple times when there is already only a small chance to get in at all (and that will happen at some point, with how RNG tends to be in this game I can practically guarantee it) is a fun time. Why is applying RNG twice... sorry, 8 times to the event necessary to make the items rare? If it's supposed to be for fun, why not make getting to the last floor more based on skill and then, you know - just make the drops less than guaranteed? What is the point of gathering 3 other people to go in just to have the experience go out with a fart after two floors? Seems like a waste of time / effort to me.
    Because it's not supposed to be a routine thing that you and your group do whenever the portal pops up with every other dragonskin map. It's an extra, fun thing that happens 50% of the time, when finishing a dragonskin map. It's an incentive to run those dragonskin maps again, since they haven't been all that useful recently. (aside from the relic items)

    If you want something that's more based on skill to go from floor to floor, go play Palace of the Dead in 3.35.
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malakym View Post
    I don't really see how getting unlucky and not getting past the third floor multiple times when there is already only a small chance to get in at all (and that will happen at some point, with how RNG tends to be in this game I can practically guarantee it) is a fun time. Why is applying RNG twice... sorry, 8 times to the event necessary to make the items rare? If it's supposed to be for fun, why not make getting to the last floor more based on skill and then, you know - just make the drops less than guaranteed? What is the point of gathering 3 other people to go in just to have the experience go out with a fart after two floors? Seems like a waste of time / effort to me.
    Dont forget the RNG to actually gather the maps, not to mention the daily limit... for a VERY small "Hope" to open a portal...
    You will not open gates for weeks and players just gonna ignore it faster than even diadem got ignored...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Dont forget the RNG to actually gather the maps, not to mention the daily limit... for a VERY small "Hope" to open a portal...
    You will not open gates for weeks and players just gonna ignore it faster than even diadem got ignored...
    yup, again more content with a long cool down and a "chance" to do it. Not a fan of this...this stuff is worse then the fatigue system in 1.0, or the same. Enough with the weekly caps and lock out junk...
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    Naesaki Ashwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Dont forget the RNG to actually gather the maps, not to mention the daily limit...
    Actually when you are looking for dragonskin maps, if you see a lower one first just don't collect it and just collect other items to make the node reset. The timer doesn't start ticking until you collect a map, just keep going until you see a dragonskin map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaesakiAshwell View Post
    Actually when you are looking for dragonskin maps, if you see a lower one first just don't collect it and just collect other items to make the node reset. The timer doesn't start ticking until you collect a map, just keep going until you see a dragonskin map.
    rng for the map top on top of rng of what map pop , for more rng 50% ......and once u enter guess what? more RNG!

    Rnginception!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    rng for the map top on top of rng of what map pop , for more rng 50% ......and once u enter guess what? more RNG!

    Rnginception!
    Because it's terrible that you have to spend a whole 10 minutes to get the map you want, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Because it's terrible that you have to spend a whole 10 minutes to get the map you want, right?
    where i sign for 10 min? because sometimes i waste like 30 min waiting until dragonskin map pops...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    where i sign for 10 min? because sometimes i waste like 30 min waiting until dragonskin map pops...
    30 minutes seems exceptionally long.

    Unless you're clearing every single node, which is unnecessary if you're just there for a map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Dont forget the RNG to actually gather the maps, not to mention the daily limit... for a VERY small "Hope" to open a portal...
    You will not open gates for weeks and players just gonna ignore it faster than even diadem got ignored...
    If you dislike it so much, feel free to just sell your daily map, since the prices on those will go up a lot.

    That way, other players who don't mind spending gil can enjoy the 50% spawn rate on portals (which is by no means a "very small chance"), while you'll get a bunch of gil that you can spend on things that you enjoy.
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