Live Letter XXX Discussion Thread

[PArcher]

Well the sooner you obtain the relic the sooner you can benefit from and enjoy the stats and since weapons replace each other so quickly, the sooner the better. It's certainly not the journey most people enjoy out of this quest, it's the destination.

Not many people enjoy grinding on content over and over, it's hard to blame them for not enjoying it since not everyone can watch Netflix at the same time like the ones who "enjoy" the grind.

Unless you are doing Savage progression...why do you need it so fast?

This is what really gets me; people who have no intention (or, don't have the skill no matter what gear they have) to raid, but have to have the best gear ASAP. The 230 weapon vs a 220 weapon (even a 210) isn't going to shave a ton of time off an Antitower run if you don't know how to do your job well, no matter what you think (and, my alt, who uses a 210 weapon and a mix of 210 and 220 gear, DPS-heals experts better than most non-raider healers, even if they're almost full i230. Crazy, huh?)


And yes, I can understand for Savage progression; you want all the advantages you can get (heck, I can replace a few of my penta-melded accessories with 240, but its not worth it til I get my 240 pants). But I generally don't see these people complaining about having to grind something out ASAP, considering the long hours and all the effort they put into raid...doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but most complaints about this come from people who never set foot into Savage...

[Namida-Hikari]

Unless you are doing Savage progression...why do you need it so fast?

This is what really gets me; people who have no intention (or, don't have the skill no matter what gear they have) to raid, but have to have the best gear ASAP

The answer is really simple. Just look at PF not even 48 hours after new patch. People already make some silly "No noobs, Fail=Kick" parties (true story, last big patch at the launch of Sephirot). A lot of players are using parsers when they go to primals or else in PF. So yes, the judge you. They don't care abou your skills, they care abour your stuff, no matter what. And as always, they ask for players with some absolutely crazy high iLV to go faster. That's why players NEED to be VERY well stuffed ASAP.

[SDaemon]

The answer is really simple. Just loot at PF not even 48 hours after new patch. People already make some silly "No noobs, Fail=Kick" parties (true story, last big patch at the launch of Sephirot). A lot of players are using parsers when they go to primals or else in PF. So yes, the judge you. They don't care abou your skills, they care abour your stuff, no matter what. And as always, they ask for players with some absolutely crazy high iLV to go faster. That's why players NEED to be VERY well stuffed ASAP.

Those players are the first to clear it and are looking for other people in the same boat looking to farm. PF is likewise filled with learning groups looking for reasonable requirements.

That's why players NEED to be VERY well stuffed ASAP.

isn't true at all unless you aim to be one of those first clearers/farmers, for whatever reasons you have.

[Colino]

The answer is really simple. Just look at PF not even 48 hours after new patch. People already make some silly "No noobs, Fail=Kick" parties (true story, last big patch at the launch of Sephirot). A lot of players are using parsers when they go to primals or else in PF. So yes, the judge you. They don't care abou your skills, they care abour your stuff, no matter what. And as always, they ask for players with some absolutely crazy high iLV to go faster. That's why players NEED to be VERY well stuffed ASAP.

Those people are looking for a very specific type of player, which you may or may not be. The beauty of PF is that you can start your own party and find more like-minded players to tackle content with, you don't have to join anyone who's playstyle doesn't match yours.

[PArcher]

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First, like others said, go make your own pfs more to your skill level. You can get people fast even with a "slower" learning party at launch. Second, most of those pfs are for people looking to get carried, so why do you want to join them anyway? And for those who aren't, if you aren't skilled enough to dps and do mechanics properly early in a patch with the best gear you could get last patch, even with bis gear you still wouldn't be able to do this.

Gear is not a substitute for skill.

[KarstenS]

The answer is really simple. Just look at PF not even 48 hours after new patch. People already make some silly "No noobs, Fail=Kick" parties [...] They don't care abou your skills, they care abour your stuff, no matter what.

Uhm. No. They care more about skill then everything else. People that put up farm parties want to farm. Even on the early days. The difference in early days is, you need to perform much better than in later days, when the stuff is outgeared.

That's why players NEED to be VERY well stuffed ASAP.

In this case the content has to get set to a higher difficult level, because it got designed with a definied level of skill in the mind of the developers. It is meant to be more challanging at the release and to get slowly easier with gearing up.