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    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuro89 View Post

    I assume the 228 at the top indicates how many of whatever we feed it.
    Even with more ways to obtain these token things than with the 200-210 step, this looks like it could be a significantly greater hell.
    Would you rather it be 228 materia (at least) and 228 items like the last time we changed the stats of our relic?

    Each item we use gives 3-5 points, so 46-76 items are needed (we needed 75 Alexandrite and at least 75 materia to do the last one, for reference)

    Yes, its going to be a grind. Its the relic quest, its meant to be a grind (because its either going to be skill-based or grind-based, and the vast majority can't get the skill-based weapon, so go for the grindy one...similarly, this is likely why Aquapolis is RNG-based rather than skill-based; everyone has a chance with RNG, but the majority would do nothing but whine if we have Savage-level difficulty anywhere outside of Savage)
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    Valentina Jalenoux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuro89 View Post

    I assume the 228 at the top indicates how many of whatever we feed it.
    Even with more ways to obtain these token things than with the 200-210 step, this looks like it could be a significantly greater hell.
    But they added a bigger shortcut- in this grind, if you have the gil, you can choose to substitute the weapon food with materia. That can significantly cut the grind, even if you only use grade I - III materia, which are dirt cheap.

    Also it may be 228 stat points, so it could be whatever 228/3 (since each food is +3 to a stat minimum) is worth of food minimum, plus the +4/+5 bonus chance. And they did say the relic will have the same stats as an i240 weapon +3 grade V materia so, you're coming out ahead of the lore tome i240 versions on top of that. I think even the Novus was 75 Alex/materia but when it was finalized, you got bonuses added to your first two stats, so it ended up not being a total 1:1 ratio of items to stats.
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnesium02 View Post



    so ... 228 of something?
    228 off-stat points... With caps that match i240 primal weapon...
    Problem: WHM relic today have 232 off-stat points.
    Primal weapon for WHM + 2x Materia V is 232 offstat points...
    We end up losing compared to the primal weapon......
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Idling camera can be enabled during combat ... Now all the people who are afk for most of the 24 man raid will be able to take nice screenshots while they get carried ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Idling camera can be enabled during combat ... Now all the people who are afk for most of the 24 man raid will be able to take nice screenshots while they get carried ?
    "brb 2 minutes guys need to take some selfies :33333"
    good grief.
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    Mieck Corcoczeck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Idling camera can be enabled during combat ... Now all the people who are afk for most of the 24 man raid will be able to take nice screenshots while they get carried ?
    I suppose that they won't see their vote dismissal window whilst on idle
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Idling camera can be enabled during combat ... Now all the people who are afk for most of the 24 man raid will be able to take nice screenshots while they get carried ?


    Please look forward to it.
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    Rufus Wightman
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    But... but no i200 > i210 anima nerf...?
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan77k View Post
    But... but no i200 > i210 anima nerf...?
    I am guessing they will nerf it during the downtime between the final HW patch and the new expansion.
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    I am guessing they will nerf it during the downtime between the final HW patch and the new expansion.
    I doubt it'd be that long. I don't remember when they started dolling nerfs out to early Zodiac, but it was around midway through ARR, if I recall. Would've liked even a tiny nerf. Like, half way done with my own anima after getting burnt out because of the grind. Dreams broken. Crying.
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