Live Letter XXX Discussion Thread

[Yukiko]

people whinge and complained every patch was a couple new linear dungeons boring blah blah, so SE listen and add somethin new different and exciting but those same people whinge because probably wont get to last room every time.. seriously SE are damned if they do damned if they dont.. theres just no pleasing people like you

You dont play many dungeoncrawler games, do you?

[Nezerius]

So exactly what I said? Okay.

It was adding to your idea, yes. I didn't see the "reduced rewards for picking the wrong door" part in your post, though.
Reducing RNG like this should come at a price, in this case a lower reward.

Isn't this concept part of the Palace of the Dead ?

Hence the "Battle Square could become an option, if the Palace ends up as a successful feature." part of my post, because it'd build on another possibly/hopefully successful feature.

You dont play many dungeoncrawler games, do you?

Would you prefer the Aquapolis to be a repetitive dungeon that you'd be able to run countless of times for a small chance at something rare?

[Yukiko]

Would you prefer the Aquapolis to be a repetitive dungeon that you'd be able to run countless of times for a small chance at something rare?

You must play Wizardry!

[Felis]

SE should just do this:

100% chance to reach the 7th room regardless if choosed the right or wrong doors
every time the wrong door get choosed the chance to find something in the 7th room get reduced by 14%
This way players will still reach the 7th room and the penalty for choosing the wrong doors is still there

[Zojha]

SE should just do this:

100% chance to reach the 7th room regardless if choosed the right or wrong doors
every time the wrong door get choosed the chance to find something in the 7th room get reduced by 14%
This way players will still reach the 7th room and the penalty for choosing the wrong doors is still there

Or they could instead just make the encounters in the next room harder if you chose the "wrong" door. That way, you can substitute bad luck with skill, plus you can use it as justification for why you should get rewarded regardless.

I dunno, I personally loathe RNG in all its forms as game design.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Once this thing does come out, people will whine more about the rewards than the RNG.

[MomomiMomi]

Once this thing does come out, people will whine more about the rewards than the RNG.

I care less about the rewards and more about the game being rewarding to play itself.

Are people seriously complaining that they might fail? Some of us don't want everything to be handed to us on a silver platter. >_>

No. They're complaining that they will fail, through no fault of their own. They failed because the game said they did. Nobody's asking for it to be handed on a silver platter. They want to earn it through their own merits, not because the game said "Here, you're really lucky today. You've earned this."

[CuteWhisper]

No. They're complaining that they will fail, through no fault of their own. They failed because the game said they did.

RNG is part of a lot of MMOrpgs, it's how it works... Why is people never freaking happy?

[MomomiMomi]

RNG is part of a lot of MMOrpgs, it's how it works... Why is people never freaking happy?

It's one way to make it work. The laziest way. It's not the only way it can work.

[Kaurie]

RNG is part of a lot of MMOrpgs, it's how it works... Why is people never freaking happy?

RNG is a useful too for making an environment seem more real, because most real life experiences seem very random. In actuality, most things are not random, but they are the result of many different factors, too many to feasibly program into a game to give the same effect. So, in order to provide that sense, RNG is used.

However, RNG in FFXIV is not used to make things seem more real, it's used to create very frustrating restrictions to reduce inflation. As MomomoMomi mentioned, it is one way to address the problem, but it is not the only way and certainly not the best.