we need a sword dps

[Khaoticsuccubus]

I quite honestly never fully got into 11, but from what I hear they were mainly healers because of Convert. Though honestly and as weird as this sounds, I think the System WoW had for enhancement shamans or something similar to it would fit quite well. As in something along the lines of melee crits or something building charges to give you a free cast spell. Using it for either damage or a heal. Then having some small insta cast spells as dots or what have you, just for the love of god give the more melee attacks than Enhance shams had, seriously 2 melee abilites... smdh

That's kinda how I always pictured rdm being implemented in an mmo. I mean, it would cover all bases.. melee dps, healing, and offensive magic all woven neatly into a normal rotation.

I actually said the same thing when a friend presented that argument. Quite honestly I agree Gladiator's should be able to use Great swords. Though I don't think it would make to much sense since gladiators main goals were to survive, could also make the argument that they should use Tridents and nets. Actually a trident/net based tank would be kind of awesome.

Heh, that would be deviating from the gladiatior tidbit "uses all swords". While a greatsword utilizes a completely different style of combat than a sword or even a rapier... they are all under the title "Sword". Just as while "Polearms" would include the spear and naginata, they both utilize completely different styles of combat.

Though, now ya have gotten me hoping the samurai is a naginata wielding tank lol. ;P

[Gabrielleblanc]

That's kinda how I always pictured rdm being implemented in an mmo. I mean, it would cover all bases.. melee dps, healing, and offensive magic all woven neatly into a normal rotation.



Heh, that would be deviating from the gladiatior tidbit "uses all swords". While a greatsword utilizes a completely different style of combat than a sword or even a rapier... they are all under the title "Sword". Just as while "Polearms" would include the spear and naginata, they both utilize completely different styles of combat.

Though, now ya have gotten me hoping the samurai is a naginata wielding tank lol. ;P

I would actually be okay with that, I am not against them using Naginata its just that everyone automatically associates them with Katana, hell I would still play it even if they gave it a Yumi.

[Cinno]

I would actually be okay with that, I am not against them using Naginata its just that everyone automatically associates them with Katana, hell I would still play it even if they gave it a Yumi.

They could always do a split like they did with Arcanist, Although i know they said they regret doing that. But They could have the samurai Trainer teach two differing styles, one that uses a Katana (DPS so the dps players can get a sword) and Naginata (Tank, so the tanks can get another non-sword role). Different skills for the technically different jobs.

Samurai: Katana using DPS class.
Shogun: Naginata using Tank class.

I could see that working, then everybody is happy, and everybody wins. You'll still get the tank players that dont want to use a Naginata, and vice versa, but I feel its the closest to a compromise as we can get.

[EdwinLi]

They could always do a split like they did with Arcanist, Although i know they said they regret doing that. But They could have the samurai Trainer teach two differing styles, one that uses a Katana (DPS so the dps players can get a sword) and Naginata (Tank, so the tanks can get another non-sword role). Different skills for the technically different jobs.

Samurai: Katana using DPS class.
Shogun: Naginata using Tank class.

I could see that working, then everybody is happy, and everybody wins. You'll still get the tank players that dont want to use a Naginata, and vice versa, but I feel its the closest to a compromise as we can get.

Can't we just give Naginata to Berserker DPS Job and have that Berserker DPS Job be slightly inspired by Lu Bu from Dynasty Warriors like how Dark knight was slightly inspired by Guts from Berserker Manga?

[ADVSS]

Maybe? I wouldnt say no to new jobs, hopefully they got the "we need another (insert job/role concept) because 1 is not enough" out of their system, and i really hope they do take alot of these ideas off the forum into consideration when designing these new jobs.